World: r3wp

pekr, yes, it's bitmap. I noticed someone asked about a performance 
measuring tool for AGG perspective mapping, but I didn't have much 
time, so it became a rotation zoomer.

New ViewTop look!  I vote for that.  I did not want to use it again 
in 1.3 -- but our focus was in other areas, not on improving that 
graphic. I did a few small things t make it look a bit better.

what happened to all that stuff about the desktop being open?

http://www.rebol.com/news3610.html<- that one

Carl: Maybe the skinning could be implemented?

Viewtop source has been open for a long time now, but the only one 
who did anything with it, AFAIK, was Volker.

He, not the only one.

I have (only) update the Desktop emailer to add attachment handling.
Works nice :-)

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=vt-emailer.r

Ah, I didn't know that Dide! Thanks.

But, yes ok, it's not a big work ;-)

would be nice to see some organized effort for View 1.4. using AGG, 
perhaps some desktop searching, fancier graphics, etc.

Yes, but I think it would be good to know "what's next from Carl 
... I will ask Carl in Carl only group ...

wow...you guys are pritty ahead... I must still let 1.3 do the work 
and you are already talking 1.4 ;-)

I think there have been a great effort in other areas... this could 
easily be applied to the desktop project

rebolinth: hehe, well, I think the desktop is a pretty obvious target, 
don't you think? :-) Carl mentions this above...

That's what I suggested. We have Cyphre gfx guru here, Chris knows 
something about mock-ups. Maybe the desktop does not need to necessarily 
look like a desktop? :-) There is too much of desktops everywhere 
:-)

I'm not sure what else it should be... AmigaDE is actually the same 
principle. They sell you a program which launches kind of a desktop 
where you can launch AmigaDE games and programs.

but I think there could be potential in a real, full desktop with 
its own window manager. I've been playing with that idea.

View 1.3 is out...

oh my, we can see very nice demos in desktop demo folders, with "designs" 
like Calculator .... those should be removed, redesigned, or they 
somehow descredit current Rebol's AGG capabilities ;-)

I wonder why 'list style is not based upon Carl's IOS Developer's 
version, which was said being fixed and more advanced?

You can expect list style the most difficult style for newbies to 
use

It is also no more true, that VID is supposed to tolerate unknow 
words - e.g. I tried radio-group instead of radio-line. Old version 
only said "Misplaced item". Was the change intentional?

Just an usability question - when I have radio button in my design, 
I can "turn it on", but can't turn it off. I know I should use check-line 
instead probably, but is it correct that single radio button can't 
be deselected, if it allows to be selected? :-)

yep :)

yep
 means yes, or no? :-))

Yep

 means yes: since there is only one single "Yep" in Anton's answer, 
 you can't turn it off by selected a "No" there!

Is that OK though? I have to find some windows app and try it :-)

Mostly you use radio buttons in a group, so ....

That's right. Radio buttons make no sense unless they are in a group. 
If you want a single on and off option then you must use a checkbox.

how do the pane buttons in the Rebol/View User Setup get the pressed 
state look when they are active?

maybe they are not buttons, but toggles? Ehm ... not btns, but togs 
:-)

I seem to have found a solution, but it's ridiculously complex...

pekr: ah thanks. I didn't know there were new versions of toggle

now it works. way simpler. thank you very much, pekr

well, thank to others. I just asked few days ago if there is new 
version of toggle, and someone (Ashle?) gave me an advice :-)

how do I keep the view window open if I run rebol.exe  myscript.r 
so I can see the results? thanks.

Put a HALT at the end of the script. If you want to see the console, 
simply print something like PRINT "finished"

thanks!

Ok, that was weird!  I just started View and it told me there was 
a new version to be downloaded and when I clicked download it popped 
up a file requester asking me where I want to download view.exe to. 
 The weird part is the default path it popped up was C:/Program Files/Common 
Files/System/Mapi/1033/NT  Where the hell did that come from?

Hm...  Somehow VIEW is triggering my Virus Scan Software...  Not 
sure just what is going on but when I run View 1.2.125 it is telling 
me that there is a new version of View available and immediately 
thereafter my Virus Scan is popping up a requester claiming files 
that I KNOW aren't viruses are viruses.

I just ran the View desktop, and was advised of a newer version.. 
which I duly downloaded.

REBOL/View 1.3.0.3.1 10-Jun-2005 Core 2.6.0
Copyright 2000-2005 REBOL Technologies.  All rights reserved.
REBOL is a trademark of REBOL Technologies. WWW.REBOL.COM

So, looks like 1.3 has actually now been released.

And the familiar rebol icon is back again.

http://www.rebol.com/download.htmlshows the new download versions

Officially released 10-jun according to the download page:
http://www.rebol.com/view-platforms.html

[oops we typed at the same moment]

I guess it might be worthwhile waiting for LNS to do a library interface.

Kill two birds with one stone as it were.