[Script Library] REBOL.org: Script library and Mailing list archive
so MAKE ME A FANCE BLINKING WIDE BUTTON ON THE MIDDLE OF MY PAGE AND BE SHORT NAME IT "UPLOAD A SCRIPT" !!! Focus on those 2 points and i will use rebol.org waaaaaaaaaaay much more. If you want to go crazy fancy and make it super cool you can add a picture + text describtion for the GUI based script... Those are the details that separate a boring website noone use and a super website use widely !!
Remember what ever you do you have to make it easy it's rebol ...
member's loundge ??? OMG it took me 1 more hour to find it ... can't you please use things that ring bells into the commoners and stop using snobe description ?
Member's Lounge call it Member's profile
definatly there is too much text to read on rebol.org ... we are in 21th century it's graphical and fancy eye candy era in case you didn't notice .. Less text Less Snobe description More images icons colors etc... and it's not only a CSS problem here is just I have to read alot and script alot scince all that could be resumed in 1 nice looking icone bar ... pff ..
you should inspire your self from android market or app store ... seriously ... Make rebol.org goal like this Easy to get, Easy to Set. Only essential information provided ...
in my "member's loundge golf club for only snobish people that are snobe enough to still code in rebol" ido you find normal to get the new about rebol community at the end of this page ??? I'm registered since 7 years in rebol.org and that's just now I notice it ..
that's the problem when you pile up things one on top of another without never get a second thought of ok what do i want people to absolutle see when they log in ?
What is the main information I want people to get their eye ball catch on ? this is what lead most of the commercial website now in day ... Just apply that pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase !!!!
shadwolf you are looking really frustrated, I have got only two advices for you 1. visit a good psychologist who would help you with your daemons for a lot of money (the more money, the better help.) or 2. try to forget that rebol even exists and stop to do anything about it.
Oh and for your information don't tell me that this all text wonder site is done for small device !! I have small device like a smartphone and this is stupidly unreadable on it !!!
pavel i'm frustrated and people are happy with this insane rebol.org
pavel i have an advise for you to participate more in rebol community
pavel you don't care about rebol.org simply because you don't use it !!!
pavel you want me to stop bitching rebol.org then do the changes !! even the worst blog of incompetent people looks better than rebol.org. you want to be taken serriously you want rebol to be considere as a profesional level than do things like in 2011 and not like in 1992 thank you ...
when i enter on rebol.org it's like i enter in a cementary or a museum !! it's not a place that's engaging people to get there often !
pavel you mean i should do like you ? cause it's been years since your last post here dude :)
pavel by the way my dear pavel friend this altme world is full of people that have completly forgot about rebol and don't give a damn anymore about it and it's more because of people like you than people like me :)
So does the rest of the world. Which means 10 billion people! Pavel don't you find sad that the last year less than a hundred scripts have been submited to rebol.org ? don't you find sad the gurus main project around R3 are located on github and not anymore on rebol.org. Why they are using github and not rebol.org ? because rebol.org don't fit their needs that's the less we can say no ? Don't blame me because I notice things and instead of being the hypocrit way i choose the frantic way I notice too my dear pavel friend that you attack my mental stability but you don't propose anything to reply to the points I notice and which are valid and widely noticeable.
So here are some stats to help you understand what we are talking about. Rebol.com exist since 7 years. there is 183 registred people apart Carl with 145 script and notchent with 105 script submited the average script submition is 4 scripts per member registred. Rebol.org was supposed to be the heart and the brain of rebol community 7 years later we can notice that 10% of this is Carl Sassenrath and that in the last year less than a hundred scripts are uploaded.
So from those constatation and based on my personal experience can't I try to explain why this is a faillure ?
and why this main community central point interest so fiew people around the world?
Don't you see that all the terrific information and all the effort to link things up is broken because of the sad and sorry way to show things ? If Carl really want this boring website which won't surprise me since he can't understand we changed century and that eye candy is the first thing then verywell do a side set of page with Eye candy modern rebol.org and put a borring text button on your main page. Something like "If your are not an elite snobe click here this version of our website is for you"
another example of insane thing that makes me crazy .. why the script syntaxe color isn't done by default ... Why is there an anchor link to this feature ?? what is the need of it ... It's like you are saying "hu you know we did this syntaxe color feature but we are so elite and snobe that by default we don't use it because only plain text is for us"
can you some times be aware of the things you do and how you do them ?
looking forward to your improved screen design, alphe
Wolfie: Its strange because I often agree with the "essense" of what you are saying, but the way you stuff and the anger in your tone, always means I just skip all the posts.
rebol.org is run mostly by ONE VOLUNTEER. free, with hundreds of scripts, with thousands of features to support. Adding a script to rebol.org doesn't *require* the full library header anymore. I wonder how many hundred hours went into that huge site. I'm sorry if it took you one hour to write down 5 lines of text, but It doesn't take me that long. I agree its not optimal, but the help page is simple and conscice.
like just about everything going on with the REBOL language and its community... right now... if you want to participate and actually DO something, (I mean doing something else than bitch and moan), people will be happy for your help, even Sunanda at rebol.org. I used to be part of rebol.org team and it took me a single mail from me to get included in the team. it might take a bit more from you now that you've just insulted its main (sole?) author pretty harshly.
I'm sure we would all like to see many rebol resources improved, including rebol.org. When someone suggests specific enhancements or offers help, they are generally received with open arms.
maxim that's too easy to say that sunanda runs the things alone and that's the reason why rebol.org sucks ... when did sunanda call for help never ... when did he try to motivate people hating his website like me to participate. Last things my remarks about rebol.org are common sense. And they were made vastly in 2005 when it opens and when people style gived a damn. 6 years later rebol means nothing NOTHING it's lower than scrub and the recursive lack of work her killed rebol and any initiative around it. Not only each time something cool is done in this community Carl comes with a great announcement to ruin the effort but the promise he makes never come to a reality.
If you can get the people that hates you to wrok with you to improve things then you are setting up a positive motion and that's what you all need here
you need direction. This means setting up priorities in things that need to change now. rebol.org since it's the central point of our very very veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery small community (we are less than 50 active people guys wake up ) then renoving it and upgrading it constantly is part of the main priorities; like supporting a console and R3/GUI and a new r3/web plugin and a new R3/desktop because desktop is related to rebol.org it makes sense to serriously work on it.
well, just talk about it with him and surely, if you have the time he may let you help him. you can already re-skin the site to make it look better. I just don't have the time nowadays.
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seems to be working for me... in what section are you?
Thanks for the problem report...... There is nothing showing on the Library error logs.....Have you got a failing URL?
Sorry! LDS error: 400 0 can't connect Request: get-script Parameters: rebtut-indexer.r
I am trying to refresh my local script library.
You've probably triggered flood protection.....Leave it five minutes and see if it forgives you.
Downloading 169 scripts.
sooner than later, it fails. So I have to download all?
Okay....that's a problem.....the downloader does not pace itself, so it triggers flood protection. Best current work-around is to download the whole set as one file -- probably faster too: http://www.rebol.org/download-librarian.r Let me take you off the flood trigger list first.....
no need for hurry
You should be good now......but using the updater to download 169+ scripts wlll trigger the problem again. (Another quick fix is to edit the script to put a wait 10 between each read of the library)
That does not help. Even after downloading the library and installing in the same folders, the librarian still tries to download 169+ scripts
after updating refresh-sync-point.txt with an actual timestamp it works now
That's good to know. Thanks!