World: r3wp

hmm, I can't find them even in 1.2.8, nor 1.2.1

Hmm... ok. I drop him a note and see what happens. Otherwise I have 
to use registry.r from rebol.org

dunno why those were removed? I do understand it for plug-in, but 
normal View?

I think security was the issue, but they should still be available 
in the SDK in any case.

I think I use 1.2.48 to use them.

Yup, that's the one.

there are some funcs in the sdk, but for install kind of purpose, 
association etc., but those all are just wrappers around natives, 
which are unset. So - how can we have their sources, if reg* functions 
are natives? :-)

Christian, that's because "only" is a keyword for build. [append/only 
[] []] is for build the same as [[append only] [] []]. I agree it's 
a bug, however I'd be tempted to leave it as-is ;)

Ah, ok, you wouldn't know from HELP BUILD but it's in the script's 
comment. So it's kind of an "intended bug", I see that now ;-)

it is not bug, totally intended. If you are afraid of INS and ONLY 
keywords, you have to use the /WITH refinement

maybe I should use a less usual word instead of 'only ? 'ins seems 
to be less conflicting, since nobody uses it for "normal" purposes

anyway, when you use the /with refinement, you are totally safe, 
since it is you who specifies the keywords

regarding the path processing - I did that intentionally - the processed 
"parts" are: block! | paren! | path! | set-path! | lit-path! as you 
can see from the source

is there a request to leave something out?

(or change a default keyword?)

I'm not afraid of ONLY, nor was it me spending/loosing time understanding 
what's going on there. I'm just suggesting to put some info regarding 
INS and SOME into the help string if it's intended behaviour; so 
no offense intended.

yes, that is a good suggestion, putting it in

>> series? []
== true
>> trim [] 
** Script Error: Cannot use trim on block! value
** Near: trim []
>> ? trim
USAGE:
    TRIM series /head /tail /auto /lines /all /with str 
...

Is this not kind of inconsistent?

check http://www.fm.tul.cz/~ladislav/rebol/build.rplease to see 
whether the doc strings are better now

>> help trim
USAGE:
    TRIM series /head /tail /auto /lines /all /with str

DESCRIPTION:

     Removes whitespace from a string. Default removes from head and tail.
     TRIM is an action value.

so the only "inconsistency" is the argument name, as I see it

don't you get a list of arguments with accepted datatypes?

ARGUMENTS:
     series -- (Type: series port)

ah, sorry, it does not check whether the argument is an ANY-STRING! 
or a PORT! , but instead it allows SERIES!

I've brought this up before as well, but it looks like it will be 
there for R3, according to the recent blog on it.

I noticed this:
>> to-url [http b c]
== http://b/c
>> to-url [http b 125]
** Script Error: Invalid argument: 125
** Where: to-url
** Near: to url! :value


Couldn't it be useful to have 125 accepted as a port number since 
it's the first integer in the block?

why isn't 125 valid anyways?  

 http://b/125

 is a valid url AFAIK  no?

yes it is. I half-expect Gabriele or Ladislav to come back with an 
answer like "no, because if we allowed that, the Internet would explode" 
or something :-)

Yes it is - completely valid as a URL.

I came up with my own:

>> to-url [http a 125]
== http://a:125

or

== http://a/125


so probably not a good idea to autmatically assume it's a port number.

(hopefully) quick question - I know you can use prin "^(page)" (or 
prin "^L") to clear the current terminal window - is there something 
just as simple to clear just the current line?  Or move the cursor 
back to the beginning of the line?

prin cr

Sunanda;  You should have mentioned loading the Terminal User Interface 
and all the funky VT100 escape sequences and the...
Just kidding :)

I' not that evil .... not yet, anyway :-)

Henrik: actually, I guess you're the first to discover that :)

it's funny that it doesn't form integers though. maybe there's some 
reason for it.

gabriele, it doesn't eat tuples either (IP addresses)

i guess the implementation is somewhat unfinished. i wonder if it 
was done for some reason...

worth RAMBO'ing?

i'm asking Carl (though he seem to be away this week)

stupid question: how do you form a readable error message from an 
error object, such as it appears in the console?

Hope this is not a stupid answer......
 xx: disarm try [0 / 0]
probe xx

check out xx, and see what bits you want to print......You'll need 
to translate the 400 into "math error" ...Not sure about that bit....Can 
you find anything in the system object for that?

hmm... I don't know. I thought there was a simple method to convert 
such an error object into a console style error.

I get an error in Rugby:

make object! [
    code: 302
    type: 'script
    id: 'no-arg
    arg1: none
    arg2: 'obj-a
    arg3: none
    near: [request-sync/action [] func [obj-a obj-b][
            all [
                obj-a obj-b
                insert probe obj-a/results probe obj-b/results
                unique/skip obj-a/results 3
                obj-b/results: obj-a/results
            ]
        ]]
    where: 'safe-exec
]

which I'm not sure how to read

Compare
  do
with
  probe xx: disarm  try [do]

Both get you a 302/no-arg message. Just the console message is chattier.

You can of course  print out a terser form using the parts of the 
disarmed error object:
 print ["error: " xx/id "near" xx/where]
Is that what you mean?

doesn't it mean you didn't supply the argument obj-a ?

I Henrik is wonder if there is a call to transform the error object 
into the "official" error Message.  AFAIK there is no such official 
stub... maybe someone knows this func?  after 8 years I still have 
not come across this.

my god... I must be tired.... that message should start with:

 "I Think Henrik is wondering if"

Hi,  I saw a pretty good error parser in Cyphre's rebsite vconsole.r 
script a long time ago...  

The code is copyright 2001 Cyphre but if you ask nice I'll bet he 
shares it, then again maybe not. So please ask.

Check REBOL/Public/Sites/Cyphre/vconsole.r from the Viewtop.

Henrik, I would use this function from Gabriele:
http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/freezer/form-error.r