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Graham 17-Dec-2006 [6475] | yeah .. but I think it would be good to still have the switch as it reduces the work. |
Anton 17-Dec-2006 [6476] | mmm... I'm not convinced. |
Graham 17-Dec-2006 [6477] | it's a switch to control what is being returned by a function |
Chris 18-Dec-2006 [6478x3] | I'd like an inverse of the 'case function. It goes through conditions and evaluates the associated block if the condition is *false*. The following does what I need: inverse-case: func [conditions [block!] /local test][ while [not tail? conditions][ set [test conditions] do/next conditions either test [ conditions: next conditions ][ return do first conditions ] ] return test ] Any pitfalls with this approach? Also, any naming suggestions? I was thinking 'assert or 'assert-all. |
Example: | |
assert [ exists? %rebol.exe [make error! "rebol.exe does not exist"] 0 < size? %rebol.exe [make error! "rebol.exe is empty"] ] | |
Graham 18-Dec-2006 [6481x4] | 0 < (size? %rebol.exe) |
I don't even have a feeling for assert | |
so, this is just case, with not in front of each condition? | |
so, why not just call it .. not-case ? | |
Chris 18-Dec-2006 [6485] | I guess it's to do with usage: though it functions like 'case, it is more like 'all with a step-by-step fallback. |
Anton 19-Dec-2006 [6486] | Mmm.. yes, I've needed that kind of expression sometimes. |
Gabriele 19-Dec-2006 [6487x4] | graham, the paren is not needed there. |
chris: a trick i have seen: | |
if not all [ msg: "rebol.exe does not exist" exists? %rebol.exe msg: "rebol.exe is empty" 0 < size? %rebol.exe ] [make error! msg] | |
anyway, assert seems a good name to me. | |
Anton 19-Dec-2006 [6491] | Gabriele, yes I've used this trick, but it's a little uncomfortable. |
Dirk 21-Dec-2006 [6492] | Hi, syntax question: i want to insert a row into a mysql db: string-block: [ "value1" "value2" insert db [ "insert into table values (?,?)" string-block ] this fails (string-block is not evaluated i guess), but i dont know how to generate the following insert db [ "insert into table values (?,?)" "value1" "value2" ] (which works) using rejoin, remold, join, .. whatever. |
Maxim 21-Dec-2006 [6493] | merrry christmas :-) insert db compose [ "insert into table values (?,?)" (string-block) ] |
Dirk 21-Dec-2006 [6494x2] | and happy xmas to you! this works! how to factor out the "insert into .." string into a variable? stmt: "insert into .." insert db compose [ stmt (vals) ] does not work, neither does insert db reduce [ stmt vals ] which puzzles me ... |
btw. is this the right place to ask? | |
Maxim 21-Dec-2006 [6496x5] | this is the right place indeed :-) like so? insert db reduce compose [ stmt (vals) ] == ["insert into .." "value1" "value2" ] |
in REBOL since string datatypes evalutate to themselves, the result of the compose (which removes the outer block) will simply stay where they are . | |
I understand your issues trying to sort out all of the variations. remember that most series handling functions return the series at some point (its head, its tail, or somewhere in between). | |
that becomes the starting point for the next function "in the chain" | |
most series handling functions modify the series "in place" instead of copying them. This simplifies series manipulation by breaking down each step into little functions. | |
Dirk 21-Dec-2006 [6501] | hm, but: >> a == ["abc" "def"] >> compose [ "abc" (a) ] == ["abc" "abc" "def"] >> reduce [ "abc" a ] == ["abc" ["abc" "def"]] why is a block returned in reduce, but two strings (which i need) in compose. should be the same imho... |
Maxim 21-Dec-2006 [6502] | compose strips the outer block. |
Dirk 21-Dec-2006 [6503] | the block from (vals) ? |
Maxim 21-Dec-2006 [6504] | reduce simply evaluates each value in the block and inserts the result |
Dirk 21-Dec-2006 [6505] | i see |
Maxim 21-Dec-2006 [6506] | yep |
Dirk 21-Dec-2006 [6507] | this is not even mentioned in the tutorial i read... do more operators behave like that? |
Maxim 21-Dec-2006 [6508x4] | a common trick is to do this to unify a series as a block! which might also accept a string! : val: compose [(val)] this way, if val was originally a block, it stays that way, but if it was a string, its then inserted within one. Note that the above actually creates a new block... so that the original val (if it was a block) and the new one are not the same |
nope, its a special case for compose... and is one of its differentiating features. | |
also note that compose has a /deep refinement which is very handy | |
ex: a-big-view-block: [ button "press me" [print rejoin ["You have pressed " (val)]]] val: "the button" view layout compose/deep a-big-view-block | |
Dirk 21-Dec-2006 [6512x2] | neat (and important) |
im using rebol on sparc/solaris (for automation). not even perl installed on these boxes .-) | |
Maxim 21-Dec-2006 [6514] | note that in the above, if you didn't compose the block it would still work, since val would be evaluated on the fly... BUT if you have several windows opened at the same time and each new window displayed a different caption, then the above is necessary... otherwise changing the value of val will change ALL windows at the same time :-) which is a common error we all make at some point. |
Dirk 21-Dec-2006 [6515] | so the callback of the button will be bound to the value of 'val' at compose/deep time .. ? ok. |
Maxim 21-Dec-2006 [6516x3] | it will replace the (val) by its value at specific time |
another very good use of compose: time: now my-object: make object! compose [ name: "me" time: (time) ] without the compose, my-object/time will be none | |
actually it will raise an error since time within the context of the object, is not yet set. | |
Dirk 21-Dec-2006 [6519x2] | hm, isn't: my-object: make object! [ name: "me" time: now ] equivalent? |
ah, i see. | |
Maxim 21-Dec-2006 [6521] | yes... obviously, but sometimes, the value you want to set within your object is already used within the code that is populating it... it was just an example :-) |
Dirk 21-Dec-2006 [6522] | yeah, i see the difference. but i think the behaviour is a bit weird |
Maxim 21-Dec-2006 [6523] | why? |
Dirk 21-Dec-2006 [6524] | i would expect that time is identical to now after time: now but it's not. |
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