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Graham 9-Mar-2005 [631] | So, there is no nslookup utility for rebol ? |
Tomc 9-Mar-2005 [632] | must be http://www.compkarori.com/soap/index.shtml |
Graham 9-Mar-2005 [633] | you lost me ... |
BrianW 9-Mar-2005 [634x2] | print read dns://www.coolnamehere.com/ or is that not what you were thinking of? |
hmm. | |
Tomc 9-Mar-2005 [636] | that is what I was looking for |
Graham 9-Mar-2005 [637x2] | I want to find the mail server for a given email address... |
so I can implement outgoing smtp mail ... | |
BrianW 9-Mar-2005 [639] | finger? whois? I'm behind a firewall, so I don't know which (if either) |
Tomc 9-Mar-2005 [640] | read join dns:// mailhost |
Graham 9-Mar-2005 [641] | but how do you know the mailhost ? |
Tomc 9-Mar-2005 [642x2] | from the part agrer the @ in the email address I wouls think |
after | |
Graham 9-Mar-2005 [644x2] | nope .. |
I have an email ... [gchiu-:-compkarori-:-com] .. How would you get the MX record for that? | |
BrianW 9-Mar-2005 [646] | ... trying to find something useful right now :-) |
Graham 9-Mar-2005 [647x3] | this is the answer : 203.79.110.37 |
because I know it :) | |
leave me a message here if you find anything :) | |
BrianW 9-Mar-2005 [650x2] | Will do :-) |
http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=dig.r maybe? | |
Ammon 9-Mar-2005 [652] | Dig.r does appear to support MX... |
Graham 9-Mar-2005 [653x3] | ahh... I looked for digger but not dig |
>> res: read dig://203.96.152.4/MX/www.compkarori.com connecting to: 203.96.152.4 >> print res/to-str ;; REQUEST: MX(15) for www.compkarori.com ;; id: 52715 AA: 0.0 RD: 1.0 RA: 1.0 ANSWER(s): 0 AUTHORITY(s): 1 ADDITIONAL(s): 0 ;; ANSWER(s): ;; AUTHORITY(s) compkarori.com. 531 SOA ns1.webxess.net. postmaster.webxess.net. 2005030501 10800 3600 1209600 600 ;; ADDITIONAL(s) | |
Doesn't give me the correct answer :( | |
BrianW 9-Mar-2005 [656x2] | what about read dig://www.comparori.com/MX |
.oO(firewalls are annoying at moments like this) | |
Graham 9-Mar-2005 [658] | hey, that works :) |
BrianW 9-Mar-2005 [659] | good, had to guess my way through in my head :-D |
Graham 9-Mar-2005 [660x2] | Now I can start coding my smtp server for outgoing mail. |
actually, this is the form I used >> res: read dig://203.96.152.4/MX/compkarori.com connecting to: 203.96.152.4 >> probe res/to-str {;; REQUEST: MX(15) for compkarori.com ;; id: 53188 AA: 0.0 RD: 1.0 RA: 1.0 ANSWER(s): 2 AUTHORITY(s): 3 ADDITIONAL(s): 3 ;; ANSWER(s): compkarori.com.^-247^-MX^-0 pop.compkarori.com. compkarori.com.^-247^-MX^-10 pop.compkarori.com. ;; AUTHORITY(s) compkarori.com.^-596^-NS^-ns3.webxess.net. compkarori.com.^-596^-NS^-ns1.webxess.net. compkarori.com.^-596^-NS^-ns2.webxess.net. ;; ADDITIONAL(s) pop.compkarori.com.^-596^-A^-203.79.110.37 ns1.webxess.net.^-69731^-A^-216.166.83.11 ns2.webxess.net.^-69731^-A^-216.166.83.12 } | |
BrianW 9-Mar-2005 [662] | oh, the www was confusing it? |
Graham 9-Mar-2005 [663x2] | yeah .. |
>> res: read dig://203.96.152.4/MX/compkarori.com connecting to: 203.96.152.4 >> probe res/additionals/1/Rdata/ip 203.79.110.37 == 203.79.110.37 | |
JaimeVargas 10-Mar-2005 [665] | Graham depends on the tool. With dig. You do dig MX domain.dom |
Graham 12-Mar-2005 [666x4] | what does this mean? * Generate 64 bits of randomness from a good, well-seeded random number generator; ie. how large a seed do I need to get 64 bits ? |
http://www.jwz.org/doc/mid.html In summary, one possible approach to generating a Message-ID would be: * Append "<". * Get the current (wall-clock) time in the highest resolution to which you have access (most systems can give it to you in milliseconds, but seconds will do); * Generate 64 bits of randomness from a good, well-seeded random number generator; * Convert these two numbers to base 36 (0-9 and A-Z) and append the first number, a ".", the second number, and an "@". This makes the left hand side of the message ID be only about 21 characters long. * Append the FQDN of the local host, or the host name in the user's return address. * Append ">". | |
enbase doesn't accept a value of 36 | |
I used 1'000'000 here .. don't know if it's enough generate-messageid: does [ rejoin [ "<" enbase form now/time/precise "." enbase form random 1000000 "@" server-name ">"] ] | |
Gabriele 12-Mar-2005 [670] | basically you need 13 random characters, don't you? |
Graham 12-Mar-2005 [671x2] | I"m not sure ... |
where does the 13 come from? | |
Gabriele 12-Mar-2005 [673x2] | a 64 bit number has 64 digits in base 2, and 12-13 digits in base 36 |
anyway, since you just need some randomness, a random 12 character string will do | |
Graham 12-Mar-2005 [675] | so use base 32 ? |
Gabriele 12-Mar-2005 [676x2] | >> s == "1234567890ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ" >> pool: "" insert/dup pool s 12 == "" >> random/seed now >> copy/part random/secure pool 12 == "GQOTTWDZZXNL" >> copy/part random/secure pool 12 == "JOFF6QY4T2H8" >> copy/part random/secure pool 12 == "8RJ2MFTQ0IJQ" >> copy/part random/secure pool 12 == "ZKCS1DX7UTHL" >> copy/part random/secure pool 12 == "DY3VJH4UTNFF" >> copy/part random/secure pool 12 == "KWPNQRIJ40KN" |
note that "well seeded" usually means you're seeding from some truly random value, rather than the current time | |
Graham 12-Mar-2005 [678] | I guess since I'm not processing that many email, it doesn't have to be truly random. |
Gabriele 12-Mar-2005 [679x2] | i think that for your purposes, enbase/base 64 would be just fine |
so you could use something like: | |
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