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Graham 24-Oct-2005 [2466] | this ensures that years more than 10 ahead get changed |
Volker 24-Oct-2005 [2467x2] | explicit 4 digits are not necessary? |
but quick solution :) | |
Graham 24-Oct-2005 [2469] | Since we don't have control over the field .. users will enter 2 digits sometimes |
Volker 24-Oct-2005 [2470] | i mean user can enter 2025 explicitely. that gets 1925. |
Graham 24-Oct-2005 [2471x3] | well, I see ... he made a mistake. |
In my application .. you are not allowed to deal with dates too distant. | |
:) | |
Ladislav 24-Oct-2005 [2474] | this solution: >> 24/10/55 == 24-Oct-1955 >> 24/10/54 == 24-Oct-2054 |
Volker 24-Oct-2005 [2475] | ok, than this is enough. but people get older in the future! (hopefully) |
Ladislav 24-Oct-2005 [2476] | is considered "standard", but it doesn't look ideal for medicine applications |
Anton 24-Oct-2005 [2477x3] | I would require users to enter four digits. Get them used to being precise. |
sorry "we don't have control of the field..." | |
mmm.. so you have to guess. A bad situation. | |
Graham 24-Oct-2005 [2480] | Hey, living users won't have to worry about the next century!! |
Volker 24-Oct-2005 [2481] | i would use grhams solution and feed what rebol sees back into the input-field. so user sees something is wrong. |
Graham 24-Oct-2005 [2482] | Ladislav, how did you know the cut off date? |
Volker 24-Oct-2005 [2483] | middle? 50 years? |
Graham 24-Oct-2005 [2484x2] | ahh... |
well, I think we need an adjustable window | |
Ladislav 24-Oct-2005 [2486] | adjustable window - you may put it to RAMBO as a request, but I am not sure if you succeed |
Volker 24-Oct-2005 [2487] | would something in system/options be a big effort? |
Graham 24-Oct-2005 [2488] | I thought RT wanted to get into medical applications :) |
Ladislav 24-Oct-2005 [2489] | OK, try to put it there and let's see :-) |
Graham 24-Oct-2005 [2490] | system/options sounds appropriate |
Ladislav 24-Oct-2005 [2491] | currently it is -50 to 50 but even -100 to 0 isn't "safe" (ever heard anecdotes about inviting over 100 people to elementatry schools?) |
Volker 24-Oct-2005 [2492x2] | I think it is importan if you get dates as strings, you dont know after the converion if it was 2 or 4 digits. makes the smartness of to-date useless, going back to self-made conversion. OTOH in most cases defaults are enough, but so are english month :) |
main point may be, some dates cant be in the future, like being born. | |
Graham 24-Oct-2005 [2494] | 110 - 0 should be enough |
Ladislav 24-Oct-2005 [2495x2] | but impossible |
it is more than 100 | |
Graham 24-Oct-2005 [2497] | there are many centenarians around. |
Ladislav 24-Oct-2005 [2498] | :-P |
Graham 24-Oct-2005 [2499x2] | the Galapagos turtle that was said to have been brought back by Charles Darwin is over 160 years old now. |
so, for vetinary applications, would have to adjust the date window even further. | |
Volker 24-Oct-2005 [2501] | maybe hexdates, going to 255? :) |
Ladislav 24-Oct-2005 [2502x2] | your trouble is, that the window is only 100 years wide |
so if you want it to start at -110, it can go to -10 maximum | |
Graham 24-Oct-2005 [2504] | Well, I think the vets can argue their own case, I can work with a 100 year window. |
Ladislav 24-Oct-2005 [2505] | this is not about computers, it is about the fact, that two-digit years can represent only 100 years, i.e. no "window trick" can give you more than 100 years |
Volker 24-Oct-2005 [2506] | with all those extinctions that -10 window may be ok.. :( |
Graham 24-Oct-2005 [2507] | If there is a 4 digit field, then birthdates pre last century would normally be added in 4 digits by most people. |
BrianH 24-Oct-2005 [2508] | Why don't you implement the window yourself with a parse rule? It wouldn't be difficult to parse the date yourself. |
Graham 24-Oct-2005 [2509] | because although I can do it, someone else may not be able to do so. |
Ladislav 24-Oct-2005 [2510] | I think, that we have successfully proven, that two digit dates are insufficient for human medicine regardless what window we choose |
Graham 24-Oct-2005 [2511] | to-date/birth |
Ladislav 24-Oct-2005 [2512] | but still, is a "24/Oct/05" a newly born or a 100 years old? |
BrianH 24-Oct-2005 [2513] | Either way congratulations are in order :) |
Ladislav 24-Oct-2005 [2514] | :-)) |
Graham 24-Oct-2005 [2515] | to-date/newborn |
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