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Rebolek 3-Jan-2010 [15314x2] | Brian: FILTER is REMOVE-EACH on steroids. Gregg, Doc: Thanks! What I'm working on right now is this: divisor: func [x][filter serie [1 .. x][zero? x // i]] prime?: func [x][equal? 2 length? divisor x filter [1 .. 50][prime? x] this must work. |
well, add the missing "]" ;) | |
BrianH 3-Jan-2010 [15316] | I was talking about the functional-language filter operation, not Bolek's (much cooler) FILTER :) |
Steeve 3-Jan-2010 [15317] | Well it's interesting as a study dialect. But to be honest guys, i don't see the interest to have them in Rebol. Because we can do much of the use cases rebolek showed us with one or two lines of rebol code. And i don't need to say that it will got lightning speed by comparison But anyway, It's lot of fun to do such things with Rebol. |
Gregg 4-Jan-2010 [15318] | I think that's the point Steeve. Looking for new ways to express things, that may be useful, and may inspire more useful adaptations. |
Graham 4-Jan-2010 [15319] | spell: func [ check [string!] /local req result suggestions ][ req: reform compose copy [ <spellrequest textalreadyclipped="0" ignoredups="1" ignoredigits="1" ignoreallcaps="0"> <text> (check) </text> </spellrequest> ] result: load/markup read/custom https://www.google.com/tbproxy/spell reduce [ 'POST req ] either parse result [ tag! tag! tag! set suggestions string! tag! tag! end ][ parse suggestions none ] [ none ] ] >> spell "rebol" connecting to: www.google.com == ["reboil" "rebel" "reboils" "Reebok" "rebook"] |
Anton 4-Jan-2010 [15320] | Bolek, that's very interesting for me because I was searching for just such a declarative dialect for sound generation and music composition. |
Pekr 4-Jan-2010 [15321] | Anton - still experimenting with sound? Maybe R3 Extension based on fmod is waiting for you to bring it to REBOL? :-) |
Rebolek 4-Jan-2010 [15322] | Anton, I'm glad to hear that. In which way are you interested to use it in sound/music generation? One of my first thoughts was howe to use this together with Sintezar. It should probably be used for oscillator wavetables generation... I'm not sure. |
Pekr 4-Jan-2010 [15323] | Rebolek - do vectors help you with sounds? There are some high-priority changes planned for vectors for the 3.0 beta IIRC. |
Rebolek 4-Jan-2010 [15324] | Pekr, vectors are really great. But they need few improvements and bugfixes here and there. I wrote a document what doesn't work and should some time ago (has been two years already? I think so). I haven't looked at them recently, so maybe they're improved already. I should check my R3 AIFF/WAV loaders/savers wheter they work as they have been the best test for vectors I had. |
Pekr 4-Jan-2010 [15325x2] | High priority for Vector says - Basic vector! conversions and ops ... dunno how Carl sticks to the published project plan though ... |
Whole document is here - http://rebol.com/r3/docs/project.html.... there are even some sound related changes planned, although with lower priority ... | |
Pavel 4-Jan-2010 [15327] | Rebolek How much differ vectors from binary in sound application isn't it pure record of numbers only? |
Rebolek 4-Jan-2010 [15328] | Pavel, yes it is. But you can say that binary! is subset of vector! - 8bit unsigned vector. With vector! You can generate for example 16bit signed stream and then just add WAV/AIFF header. So vector! is superior to binary! from this point of view. |
Gregg 4-Jan-2010 [15329] | Very nice Graham! |
james_nak 5-Jan-2010 [15330] | Smart guys. This may seem elementary but I need to check if certain ports are open on a windows machine. For example, port 8881. I use something like error? try [close open to-url "tcp://:8881"] (building these strings with various port numbers). My problem is I don't know how to check if it is working. I turn on the firewall and it doesn't seem to make a difference. Perhaps my thinking is all wrong and all I am doing is checking within the firewall. Any thoughts? |
Graham 5-Jan-2010 [15331x2] | all that does is trying to open a server port |
if you want to check if there is a server port listening then you can do open tcp://localhost:8881 and if you want to see if that port is open to the outside, then you need to use another PC to probe that port address | |
sqlab 5-Jan-2010 [15333] | This should work, where server is the ip adress or dns name of the relevant machie opened: [] for i 1 65536 1 [ all [ print i attempt [p: open join tcp://server: i ] attempt [close p] append opened i ] ] |
Graham 5-Jan-2010 [15334x2] | won't opened contain all the i's? |
if you want to only see those successfully opened, I would put the 'append after server: i | |
sqlab 5-Jan-2010 [15336] | do you regard the all [..] ? |
Graham 5-Jan-2010 [15337] | won't attempt always return the same value? |
sqlab 5-Jan-2010 [15338] | I do not follow ? |
Graham 5-Jan-2010 [15339x4] | oh .. I isee it doesn't |
how about attempt [ print i close open join tcp://server: i append opened i ] and do without the p, and the all .... | |
for i 65536 1 [ attempt [ print i close open join tcp://server: i append opened i ] ] | |
for i 1 ... | |
sqlab 5-Jan-2010 [15343] | of course, you can also omit the print |
Graham 5-Jan-2010 [15344x2] | or shorten it to 'prn ... |
'prin | |
james_nak 5-Jan-2010 [15346] | Thanks Graham and Sqlab. One step further if you please. What would you suggest the steps would be to test the code. Right now when I run the test I get no opened ports. I've turned the firewall off and on but the results are the same. I've been studying the nettools.r code and thinking that maybe I'm not thinking this right. What I want to know is if a certain port will allow it to be open so that this particular application has can use.it. What is happening is customers are installing the app and having trouble because these certain ports are unavailable. What I wanted to create was a quick and easy pre-install test to verify these ports were open. This partly due to the fact that they way the software was written it doesn't tell you that a closed port is the problem. It simply stops worting. I appreciate the feedback you have given. |
Dockimbel 5-Jan-2010 [15347] | Cheyenne has such opened listen port detection capabilities (added recently), you can extract the code from the SVN repo (search for 'list-listen-ports function) : http://code.google.com/p/cheyenne-server/source/browse/trunk/Cheyenne/misc/win32.r Linux and OS X versions are also available in %misc/unix.r and %misc/macosx.r |
james_nak 5-Jan-2010 [15348] | Thanks Doc. |
Graham 5-Jan-2010 [15349x2] | what the code checks for is if anyone is listening at a certain port ...not whether the firewall is open or closed. |
If the firewall is off, but no one is listening ... then you'll get a closed port same as if the firewall is on, and someone is listening... | |
Claude 5-Jan-2010 [15351] | what about R3 status ? make uptodate R2 is very fine but i would prefer a R3 version with GUI and ODBC or MYSQL ..................; |
BrianH 5-Jan-2010 [15352x3] | The R3 GUI is still in development. The database model hasn't even been designed yet. You can make wrappers for ODBC and MySQL if you want to write the extensions - Robert has already started doing so for SQLite. Once device extensions are supported, we can start to get to work on the database model. |
R3 Status: The beta will come out without GUI, database or (unless there is some miracle) SSL. | |
some miracle in this case meaning a community member with the time volunteering to do the work. | |
Claude 5-Jan-2010 [15355] | do you have a plan for the beta realase ? one week, month, |
BrianH 5-Jan-2010 [15356] | It's a little flexible - outside circumstances have affected the timing already. |
Claude 5-Jan-2010 [15357x4] | thank you for your effort on |
thank you for your effort on R3 and R2 | |
i am just like an end user on R3. and for me i am not a guru like you and others !!!!! | |
i just want to see more info and screen on the new GUI of R3 (i am very curious :-) ) | |
BrianH 5-Jan-2010 [15361] | There will be no miracle that will bring the GUI or database to the first R3 release - they just aren't done yet, and can't be done with the level of community involvement that the alpha releases have engendered. Too many critical people are waiting for a beta or full release before they will even start to get involved. Fortunately we are on the rapid release model, so there is no such thing as a "final" or "full" feature set, just the feature set of a particular release. |
james_nak 5-Jan-2010 [15362] | Thanks Graham. |
BrianH 5-Jan-2010 [15363] | If you are interested in the GUI, get involved. We *really need* non-gurus - the GUI is designed for them. |
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