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BrianH 16-Nov-2009 [15023] | Position: HEAD, TAIL, HEAD?, TAIL?, AT, SKIP, NEXT, BACK Contents: PICK, POKE (for modifiable series), ordinals (FIRST, ..., LAST) Sequence: PICK and POKE can use numbers (used to implement ordinals) Persistent position and sequence: All of the above are repeatable, with no position change side effect. |
Maxim 16-Nov-2009 [15024] | and INDEX? ;-) |
BrianH 16-Nov-2009 [15025x4] | Right, as a position function. |
LENGTH? too. Note that in R3 an image! counts as a series, though it has 2 different position measures. | |
Bitsets, tuples, objects and maps don't have position. Objects and maps don't have sequence either (at least not in theory). | |
Ports in R3 (or open/direct or command ports in R2) don't have persistent position and sequence, or reference position. This makes them streams, not series. | |
Maxim 16-Nov-2009 [15029] | yes basically, they are always at position 0 and looking at the data, implies you remove it, so ports are like quantum series ;-) |
BrianH 16-Nov-2009 [15030] | The reference position vs inherent position distinction is important. That is why the position functions are seeking procedures for ports, while they are pure reference-returning functions for series. |
Chris 16-Nov-2009 [15031x2] | It'd still be nice to have an interface that in some ways behaved like R2 ports (I think of it as adapter!) that allow the above series functions to operate on customised, abstracted series. Perhaps I'm overlooking a simpler way of addressing the problems I have in mind. |
It seems (by my reading) R3 ports have evolved toward more closely modelling streams of data as opposed to pools. | |
Henrik 17-Nov-2009 [15033] | BrianH, I don't understand your get-path example. How can I use it to build more paths? You have to remember that I'm not interested in having a default path which then is altered. I want to build then by joining several paths together, just like file! does. |
BrianH 17-Nov-2009 [15034x2] | Well, paths are like blocks, not like filenames. You can't make them act like filenames without breaking them *in every other way*. You can build path just fine with JOIN and APPEND, you can fully evaluate them with DO, and you can partially evaluate them with get-paths without ever needing to use GET IN. Functionally, there is no problem with R3's current behavior except bugs 396, 861, 1236, 1339, and maybe 746 and 803. |
We can safely assume that you are talking about R3 when proposing that behavior be changed, since R2 is in compatibility mode. | |
james_nak 18-Nov-2009 [15036] | Anyone know a simple way to transform a block of sub-blocks into a single block while retaining the original type? I have [ [1] [2] [3]] and I'd like [ 1 2 3]. I can do with with form and parse but it then I get ["1" "2" "3"]. |
kcollins 18-Nov-2009 [15037] | result: copy [] foreach x [[1 2]] [3 4] [5 6]] [append result x] |
Geomol 18-Nov-2009 [15038x4] | >> blk: [[1][2][3]] >> forall blk [change blk blk/1] >> blk == [1 2 3] |
My version can only copy with subblocks of length 1. | |
copy = cope | |
Maybe better: forall blk [change/part blk blk/1 1] | |
Izkata 18-Nov-2009 [15042] | Slight differences - no internal blocks are preserved in Geomol's: >> blk: [1 [2] [3 [4]] [5 6]] == [1 [2] [3 [4]] [5 6]] >> forall blk [change/part blk blk/1 1] == [] >> blk == [1 2 3 4 5 6] My version (gives the same result as kcollins, but is in-place like Geomol's) only flattens one level: >> blk: [1 [2] [3 [4]] [5 6]] == [1 [2] [3 [4]] [5 6]] >> forall blk [blk: back insert blk also blk/1 remove blk] == [6] >> blk == [1 2 3 [4] 5 6] |
Graham 18-Nov-2009 [15043] | >> to-block form [ [ 1 [ 2] 3 ] [ 4] ] == [1 2 3 4] |
Chris 19-Nov-2009 [15044] | Another, from the 'parse school: parse block [ any [block: any-block! (insert block take block) :block | skip] ] head block |
Maxim 19-Nov-2009 [15045] | this should be a native in R3... there are MANY places where this is both needed and its always slow. |
Graham 20-Nov-2009 [15046x2] | I've got some gui code which I am loading from a text string, and then running it. I am binding it to some local words which I want to use and that works fine. But I also want to invoke functions in the global context and it can't find them. What to do? |
eg. the text is button "test" [ alert "hello" ] and I get an error clicking on the button. | |
Chris 20-Nov-2009 [15048] | Bind the loaded text to a global word first ('system ?) then to your local context. |
Graham 20-Nov-2009 [15049] | So, here, how would I get this working? test: func [ /local lo ][ lo: {button "test" [ alert "hello" ]} view layout to-block lo ] |
Chris 20-Nov-2009 [15050] | test: func [ /local lo ][ lo: {button "test" [ alert "hello" ]} view layout bind to-block lo 'all] |
Graham 20-Nov-2009 [15051] | Let me try that ... |
Chris 20-Nov-2009 [15052] | Just don't use 'all in your local context. |
Graham 20-Nov-2009 [15053] | currently I am binding the block to some local words in the context |
Chris 20-Nov-2009 [15054] | Bind to 'all first, then your local word(s) |
Graham 20-Nov-2009 [15055x2] | eg ... |
this is user written gui code which is why I bind to the local context to prevent them doing stuff that I think might be dangerous. But I want to allow some exceptions. | |
Chris 20-Nov-2009 [15057] | Assign the global functions to local words: context compose [alert: (:alert)] |
Graham 20-Nov-2009 [15058x2] | this doesn't work ... test: func [ /local lo alert] compose/deep [alert: (:alert) dummy: none lo: {button "test" [ alert "hello" ]} view layout bind to-block lo 'dummy] |
dummy should be local too | |
Chris 20-Nov-2009 [15060] | Yeah, not sure why - do you get "alert has no value" ? |
Graham 20-Nov-2009 [15061] | ** Script Error: alert word has no context ** Where: func [face value][alert "hello"] ** Near: alert "hello" |
Chris 20-Nov-2009 [15062x2] | do-protected: use [alert][ alert: get in system/words 'alert func [txt][do bind to-block txt 'alert] ] do-protected {alert "Foo"} do-protected {print "Foo"} |
So in theory it works, next how to apply to your function. | |
Graham 20-Nov-2009 [15064x3] | Not working in my function yet. |
this works test: func [ /local lo alert dummy] compose/deep [alert: get in system/words 'alert dummy: none lo: {button "test" [ alert "hello" ]} view layout bind to-block lo 'dummy ] just not working in my script though | |
oh .. remove the compose/deep | |
Chris 20-Nov-2009 [15067x4] | Hmm, try this: |
isolate: func [words [block!]][ use words compose/only [ set (copy words) forall words [change/only words get words/1] first (copy words) ] ] do-protected: func [txt allowed][do bind to-block txt isolate allowed] | |
do-protected {print "foo"} [print] do-protected {alert "foo"} [print] | |
'isolate takes a block of words, creates an exclusive context, sets words in that context to their value in their current context and returns a word bound to that context. | |
Graham 20-Nov-2009 [15071] | In your code above, allowed is not a block of works |
Mchean 23-Nov-2009 [15072] | some nice css - html expansion macros http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/11/21/zen-coding-a-new-way-to-write-html-code/ |
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