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[Core] Discuss core issues

Graham
8-Sep-2009
[14674]
:)
Steeve
8-Sep-2009
[14675]
hum wrong !!!

don't do that optimization cause it returns TRUE if there is no trial/2 
value
Graham
8-Sep-2009
[14676]
don't you hate it when this happens??

>> do %synapse.r
** Syntax Error: Missing ] at end-of-script
** Near: (line 64507) [
Steeve
8-Sep-2009
[14677]
ahah, a pain in the ass
Graham
8-Sep-2009
[14678x2]
And it's only 10k LOC near the end ...
What I need is a utility that will take a rebol script, and parse 
it out by function, attempting to intepret it until it reaches an 
error.
Steeve
8-Sep-2009
[14680]
ok i do it now
Graham
8-Sep-2009
[14681x3]
hehe
With forth, you could at least tell by the words in the dictionary 
where things had gone sour
I've spent the last hour trying to find this unmatched bracket
Henrik
8-Sep-2009
[14684]
We could use a static analyzer, like LLVM has:

http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2009/08/mac-os-x-10-6.ars/9
Anton
8-Sep-2009
[14685]
It took you an hour?! What technique were you using to find the missing/extra 
bracket?
Graham
8-Sep-2009
[14686x2]
binary chop
doesn't work well when your gui code is about 10k long
BrianH
8-Sep-2009
[14688]
I use bracket matching in Notepad++, and a little patience. Still 
slow, but not that slow.
Anton
8-Sep-2009
[14689]
Hmm. I find it hard to visualize how it could take so long.
Graham
8-Sep-2009
[14690x2]
shall I send you a picture of me tearing my hair out??
help the visualization process a little
Anton
8-Sep-2009
[14692x2]
That would be definitive.
:)
Henrik
8-Sep-2009
[14694]
this is where dividing code in smaller bits helps as well as an easy 
to debug startup procedure :-)
BrianH
8-Sep-2009
[14695]
%synapse.r is large by REBZOL standards.
Graham
8-Sep-2009
[14696]
I am using notepad++ at present to do the binary chop
BrianH
8-Sep-2009
[14697]
(sorry, I'm having a typo day)
Graham
8-Sep-2009
[14698x3]
Actually Henrik, it is composed of 1000s of nodes of small amounts 
of code .. which is reassembled to the final source.  But I don't 
have a way of syntax checking each node.
finally found it!
One of the reasons I don't like code being mixed with GUI display 
elements.
Anton
8-Sep-2009
[14701]
Is your code in strings? Because otherwise you can just use LOAD 
to syntax check your program..
Graham
8-Sep-2009
[14702x2]
I get a stack overflow when I run the source from the interpreter
so I can't use that method.
Anton
8-Sep-2009
[14704]
You mean, from the rebol console, you

	>> do %synapse.r


and you always get a stack overflow (not just when you have a bug 
like this)?
Graham
8-Sep-2009
[14705]
Yes... but it's caused by my redefining 'now
Anton
8-Sep-2009
[14706]
..so I suppose you have to encap and run the executable after every 
change when debugging - I can see how that would be slow.
Graham
8-Sep-2009
[14707]
encap picks up the syntax error
Anton
8-Sep-2009
[14708x2]
Really? How does that cause a stack overflow?
Infinite recursion, I suppose.
Graham
8-Sep-2009
[14710x2]
Yeah ....
I redefine 'now to use real time taken from a NIST server
Anton
8-Sep-2009
[14712]
How fast is encap with a file that large? Does it deliver the error 
message immediately?
Graham
8-Sep-2009
[14713x2]
yes pretty immediate
My practice is usually make one change and then encap.  If I make 
two changes I'm in trouble.  Worse if I make changes while watchingTV 
:(
Anton
8-Sep-2009
[14715]
Ahh.. :) the real source of the trouble comes out :)
Graham
8-Sep-2009
[14716x3]
haha
First episode of NCIS NY
I don't know what other people do to manage code of this size ....
Sunanda
8-Sep-2009
[14719]
<What I need is a utility that will take a rebol script, and parse 
it out by function, attempting to intepret it until it reaches an 
error.>
I think there was one in the Official Guide (the book).
Graham
8-Sep-2009
[14720]
heh... I never got past the first chapter.  After that I used it 
as a bookend.
Ashley
10-Sep-2009
[14721x2]
Looking at to-rebol-file and wondering what advantage it has over 
to file! ... they seem functionally equivalent to me.
Also, the help text for as-string says "Coerces any type of string 
...". Should that read "any type of series"?
Graham
10-Sep-2009
[14723]
>> to-file "c:\rebol\rebol.exe"
== %c:\rebol\rebol.exe
>> to-rebol-file "c:\rebol\rebol.exe"
== %/c/rebol/rebol.exe