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Graham 12-Mar-2009 [12906] | Atlantic time |
Maxim 12-Mar-2009 [12907x2] | thats correct. |
-3 is the current atlantic time... eastern is at -4 | |
Graham 12-Mar-2009 [12909] | Atlantic time is -3 ? |
Maxim 12-Mar-2009 [12910x4] | yess sir |
in DST it is | |
and we have shifted last week-end. | |
before europe, AFAIK | |
Graham 12-Mar-2009 [12914] | I'm getting reports that my app is complaining that the time is 1 hour out :( |
Anton 12-Mar-2009 [12915x2] | Could it be daylight saving time ? |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Time | |
Maxim 12-Mar-2009 [12917] | yep... DST |
Graham 12-Mar-2009 [12918] | What's the time in Ontario now? 00:42 ? |
Anton 12-Mar-2009 [12919] | WinXP has an option to automatically adjust time during daylight savings. I suspect Rebol gets confused by that. |
Maxim 12-Mar-2009 [12920] | yes. |
Graham 12-Mar-2009 [12921x2] | and what timezone should they choose?? |
in windows? | |
Maxim 12-Mar-2009 [12923x2] | anton: its always worked for me... as long as the computer shifts the DST correctly... which it doesn't by default, unless you have the kb installed. |
EST -5 with the daylight saving set to on. | |
Graham 12-Mar-2009 [12925] | ok, let me try that :) |
Maxim 12-Mar-2009 [12926x2] | I had the problem this week end... I had to install the latest kb update ... cause my computer was NOT switching the DST :-( |
cause the check mark in the time settings, only switches the "automatic" aspect of it... you can't manually set the dst to on or off.... which is darn stupid. | |
Graham 12-Mar-2009 [12928x2] | Ok, that works for me! |
Thanks .. I'll tell all my users to move to Ontario | |
Maxim 12-Mar-2009 [12930x2] | cool |
hahahah | |
Anton 12-Mar-2009 [12932] | Oh, maybe the users have the wrong regional settings entered on their systems? |
Maxim 12-Mar-2009 [12933x2] | WindowsXP-KB942763-x86-ENU.exe is the file that fixes tz on xp. |
it superseeds older ones... (there are two previous kb I think... one in the 7 range and one in the 8 range IIRC) | |
Graham 12-Mar-2009 [12935x2] | I've passed on Max's instructions ... to reseed their clocks |
I mean supercede their OS | |
Maxim 12-Mar-2009 [12937x2] | if you search the net, you will quickly find the direct download link for that file from MS servers, without the need for WGA :-) |
got it my first search IIRC | |
Gabriele 13-Mar-2009 [12939x3] | So, Brian, the wiki is going to be ignored? |
Brian, how do you do this: nforeach [a block1 b block2] [...] without do/next or reduce? | |
it could as well be nforeach [a join block1 block2 b block3] [...] | |
Geomol 13-Mar-2009 [12942] | I came across some code: >> o: load {#[object! [a: 1]]} >> source o o: make object! [ a: 1 ] Is this way of making objects documents somewhere? Does it work with other datatypes? |
BrianH 13-Mar-2009 [12943] | Gabriele, I don't think the wiki will be ignored. It's just that a wiki and an official manual are different things. Noone would sensibly expect a wiki that can be edited by anyone to be authoritative. But a wiki can fill in the blanks. |
Pekr 13-Mar-2009 [12944] | Wiki is becoming a "more organised mess", thanks to Kr. Bacon :-) |
BrianH 13-Mar-2009 [12945x5] | As for nforeach, you didn't catch that the first thing I would change would be to have the words and data in separate blocks, to make generation of the data and pipelining easier. The words are an artifact of the call to nforeach, not part of the data. You need DO/next to implement the old version, not a version that I was talking about. Any REDUCE would be outside the function. |
Geomol, yes, but not all datatypes, and expect binding issues with object! and function types. | |
Pekr, Bacon has been doing good work, and the wiki is getting prettier :) But there have been a few factual errors on those pages... | |
NFOREACH would take 3 arguments, not 2, just like FOREACH. | |
I'm not sure about the name though. | |
Pekr 13-Mar-2009 [12950x2] | BrianH: I don't agree. While he is doing really a good work, he also completly ruined some stuff. He restructured Carl's docs so that they don't make much sense and he intermixed it with Gab's former VID docs, not understanding VID3 and VID 3.4 are different things. That fact alone is totally confusing ... |
I can help him to point out few things, but dunno how to contact him .... | |
BrianH 13-Mar-2009 [12952x2] | I'm not assuming it's a him until I see a full name. The factual errors can be cleaned up as the GUI design progresses, no worries. In the meanwhile we have a new doc structure and examples of formatting to copy, so I'm grateful. This does illustrate my point about the difference between a wiki and a manual though. |
Factual fixes I can handle (with available time). Formatting fixes are much more difficult - don't know Wikimedia. Not the docs guy though. | |
Gabriele 14-Mar-2009 [12954x2] | Brian: i was not comparing wiki to docs. I was comparing wiki to chat. If i need to restate do in chat, why is the wiki there? |
Brian: I don't like it that way as then you have to keep in your mind the relationship between words and blocks; furthermore, please name me one case where you wouldn't need reduce. A function that *always* needs reduce is badly designed. :P | |
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