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[Core] Discuss core issues

Maxim
12-Mar-2009
[12898x2]
since vista crapped on reboot... I have turned away.  I mean destroying 
your own MBR while booting is a pretty bad bug... It was partway 
booting.
-4
Gregg
12-Mar-2009
[12900]
Last year was the big TZ update here.
Maxim
12-Mar-2009
[12901]
so I installed XP  (30 hours of work mind you)
Graham
12-Mar-2009
[12902]
Hmm..  so why when I change to canadian time in vista, does Rebol 
say I'm at -3 ?
Maxim
12-Mar-2009
[12903x3]
when it normally takes me 1-2 hours...
EST?
EDT?
Graham
12-Mar-2009
[12906]
Atlantic time
Maxim
12-Mar-2009
[12907x2]
thats correct.
-3 is the current atlantic time... eastern is at -4
Graham
12-Mar-2009
[12909]
Atlantic time is -3 ?
Maxim
12-Mar-2009
[12910x4]
yess sir
in DST it is
and we have shifted last week-end.
before europe, AFAIK
Graham
12-Mar-2009
[12914]
I'm getting reports that my app is complaining that the time is 1 
hour out :(
Anton
12-Mar-2009
[12915x2]
Could it be daylight saving time ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Time
Maxim
12-Mar-2009
[12917]
yep... DST
Graham
12-Mar-2009
[12918]
What's the time in Ontario now? 00:42 ?
Anton
12-Mar-2009
[12919]
WinXP has an option to automatically adjust time during daylight 
savings. I suspect Rebol gets confused by that.
Maxim
12-Mar-2009
[12920]
yes.
Graham
12-Mar-2009
[12921x2]
and what timezone should they choose??
in windows?
Maxim
12-Mar-2009
[12923x2]
anton: its always worked for me... as long as the computer shifts 
the DST correctly... which it doesn't by default, unless you have 
the kb installed.
EST -5 with the daylight saving set to on.
Graham
12-Mar-2009
[12925]
ok, let me try that :)
Maxim
12-Mar-2009
[12926x2]
I had the problem this week end... I had to install the latest kb 
update ... cause my computer was NOT switching the DST   :-(
cause the check mark in the time settings, only switches the "automatic" 
aspect of it... you can't manually set the dst to on or off.... which 
is darn stupid.
Graham
12-Mar-2009
[12928x2]
Ok, that works for me!
Thanks .. I'll tell all my users to move to Ontario
Maxim
12-Mar-2009
[12930x2]
cool
hahahah
Anton
12-Mar-2009
[12932]
Oh, maybe the users have the wrong regional settings entered on their 
systems?
Maxim
12-Mar-2009
[12933x2]
WindowsXP-KB942763-x86-ENU.exe  is the file that fixes tz on xp.
it superseeds older ones... (there are two previous kb I think... 
one in the 7 range and one in the 8 range IIRC)
Graham
12-Mar-2009
[12935x2]
I've passed on Max's instructions ... to reseed their clocks
I mean supercede their OS
Maxim
12-Mar-2009
[12937x2]
if you search the net, you will quickly find the direct download 
link for that file from MS servers, without the need for WGA   :-)
got it my first search IIRC
Gabriele
13-Mar-2009
[12939x3]
So, Brian, the wiki is going to be ignored?
Brian, how do you do this: nforeach [a block1 b block2] [...]   without 
do/next or reduce?
it could as well be nforeach [a join block1 block2 b block3] [...]
Geomol
13-Mar-2009
[12942]
I came across some code:

>> o: load {#[object! [a: 1]]}
>> source o
o: make object! [
    a: 1
]


Is this way of making objects documents somewhere? Does it work with 
other datatypes?
BrianH
13-Mar-2009
[12943]
Gabriele, I don't think the wiki will be ignored. It's just that 
a wiki and an official manual are different things. Noone would sensibly 
expect a wiki that can be edited by anyone to be authoritative. But 
a wiki can fill in the blanks.
Pekr
13-Mar-2009
[12944]
Wiki is becoming a "more organised mess", thanks to Kr. Bacon :-)
BrianH
13-Mar-2009
[12945x3]
As for nforeach, you didn't catch that the first thing I would change 
would be to have the words and data in separate blocks, to make generation 
of the data and pipelining easier. The words are an artifact of the 
call to nforeach, not part of the data. You need DO/next to implement 
the old version, not a version that I was talking about. Any REDUCE 
would be outside the function.
Geomol, yes, but not all datatypes, and expect binding issues with 
object! and function types.
Pekr, Bacon has been doing good work, and the wiki is getting prettier 
:)  But there have been a few factual errors on those pages...