World: r3wp

instead of 'truncate, how about 'peel ?

If you are removing characters from both ends of a string 'strip 
would appear to be a more precise description.

Hmm.  You can strip the inner lining of something, but normally you 
only peel the outer layers :)

If that's you definition of stripping it's no wonder you live in 
NZ.

However, my preference is to add some dialect to trim ...

rather than to keep adding words

Strip mining?

Stripping paint? stripping wallpaper?

strip a joint ... = remove the contents

so, peel has a more restrictive meaning being a subset of strip.

I hope we are both joking here :)

'trim is not good fo this?

>> trim/with "[Something]" "[]"
== "Something"

it would have to be trim/head/tail/with to avoid removing characters 
inside ...

but certainly I forgot about trim/with !

Hm, it doesn't work

>> trim/head/tail/with "[Some[]thing]" "[]"
** Script Error: Invalid path value: with
** Near: trim/head/tail/with "[Some[]thing]" "[]"

I'm not a big fan of the -n syntax to mean "from the end", but that's 
just me. It's convenient to type, but doesn't provide meaning. My 
BOUNDS/RANGE dialect supports .. notation via tuples so you can't 
use negative numbers.


For the trim/strip stuff, I ended up with a bunch of related funcs 
(begins-with?, ends-with?, enclose, etc.), and it works for more 
than single chars. Not as simple as a standalone func, but more robust 
and flexible for the general case.

Why can't we have functions that return a value to the calling function, 
but then continue to do something else ?  Is this because we lack 
multithreading?

If you're not looking for further return values, you could approximate 
this behaviour by using call or launch.

too expensive

but yes, that is what we have to do at present

Graham: how could single threaded code return, and yet continue to 
execute recent function? What usability case do you have in mind 
here?

web servers

Would reentrant functions with static variables do?

For that matter, do you mean continue to do something else while 
the calling function is also doing something with your return value 
(multitasking) or do you mean picking up where you left off, later 
(generators)?

the former

For REBOL 2, multitasking means multiprocessing, sorry.

Is there a way to read out the uptime for a rebol process inside 
rebol?

I think not. The only way might be to set start: now at the beginning, 
and then read it out somehow. If the process crashes though, you 
are lost. You could write it to log from time to time, to see, what 
was happening and when ....

I'm writing a simple log from Cheyenne to see if I can catch a bug 
in the HTML dialect, but it could be useful to read out something 
like system/uptime without relying on someone making a timestamp 
at startup beforehand.

Added to RAMBO.

maybe now/uptime ?

That would cause overhead to such an important function.

Does Cheyenne create any files at startup?
If so, you could get their current timestamp and subtract.

It wouldn't work if I were to calculate uptime per process.

How do I download an .exe file and save it locally preserving the 
icon data.  If I download a file trhough my browser the Icon downloads 
too. 

How do I do this with rebol? Do I read-thru and write to save it? 
I seem lose the icon this way. THe windows default .exe icon shows.

icons are usually included in the exe file.

I got it...
I forgot to write binary (write/binary).

Is it possible to use get-modes on files on a server? 
ie. Can I extraxt the creation date from a file on a web site.?

info? http://...../file

get-modes tcp:// 'interfaces  lists the different nics eth0 eth1 
but not the different ips in one nic, e.g. eth0:0 eth0:1 .  Any idea 
how I could make the smtp send command use one specific ip ? thanks

Joe, if I understand what you mean correctly... I think REBOL can't 
do that.

you might be able to use iptables (or equivalent) to do something 
like that, by basically doing a sort of nat.

What is a difference between block, hash, list how to use them properly, 
what is an advantage and payof of each one? This is not properly 
described in documentation IMHO, exist some good resource of knowledges?

Is an additional structures (for hash and list) accessible somehow, 
can be similar structures defined in clean rebol or native only?

A hash is a block optimsed for 'find
A list is a block optimised for 'insert and 'append
Hash is very likely to be replaced by something else in R3
A note from Gregg about using list:
http://www.rebol.org/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlQFPC

THX for info

And the 2nd question? Anybody?

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