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Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4040x3] | well, it seems that worlds are not case sensitive in some cases and are in others. |
because my server folder had a sub-folder named "Rebol4" before, which now has changed to "rebol4". | |
but there must be some other or deeper connection, as it does not recognize the user list from that folder. but it also doesn't create a new one. | |
Maxim 7-Mar-2012 [4043] | very strange... the invite does mention Rebol4 |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4044x2] | yes, that's how it started out. after attempting to restart it, it seemed to become partially case sensitive. |
I've tried it both under OSX and Windows, but both produce same behavior. | |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4046] | So we lost rebol4 content? |
Gregg 7-Mar-2012 [4047x2] | You still have it locally. |
I can't even connect to the world now. | |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4049x2] | that should not happen |
henrik - are you looking into the correct directory? There is directory called worlds, and the one called servers | |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4051x3] | I don't get why there is a "rebol4" folder in my "servers" folder with everything that needs to be there in it. Yet, when I start, it says that I have only one user. |
yes, I'm looking in the "servers" folder. | |
The inconsistency that may be causing the problem is a partial case sensitivity. It screws up something somewhere. | |
Maxim 7-Mar-2012 [4054] | the world name in my altme files folders are all lower-case. so I guess that is how it generates them, to be sure they are transparent on POSIX filestores which are case-sensitive. |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4055x4] | ok, the world is not accessible, because I tried to start it from windows and my router is set to my macbook. moving it back again... |
started again | |
I'm guessing the world name is stored somewhere inside the server folder's "rebol4" file. | |
file = folder. | |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4059x3] | my world name says REBOL4, all capitals |
hmm, wrong password too ... | |
btw - check your processes. What in fact is screwed, is bug in world serving! | |
Gregg 7-Mar-2012 [4062] | I can connect again, but invalid password. |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4063] | if you serve more than one world, there are cases, when altme.com sends to to incorrect ports .... |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4064] | yes, so that part works as expected. |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4065] | aren't you running more than one world? |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4066x2] | nope, just this one. |
but going to purge all altme processes from the macbook and try again. | |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4068x2] | The world "Rebol4" at 78.156.98.239 port 5400 is reachable. Your users should be able to connect to it. |
Are you expecting it on port 5400? | |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4070] | something occurred to me: Between world restarts, altme upgraded itself from 1.2.21 to 1.2.25. |
Maxim 7-Mar-2012 [4071x2] | on windows, the latest version is 1.2.26. |
(btw, this world is starting to be a little unstable for me) | |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4073] | Not sure how to check the port number. |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4074] | netstat |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4075] | ok, just did, but there's nothing near port 5400. |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4076x3] | well, that's the command under the windows shell. What happened to me is, that altme.com incorrectly registered requested port numbers, or something like that. Simply put - two worlds tried to connect to the same port ... |
so check if your port 5400 is not e.g. used by some zombie instance of an app | |
but that does look like some other problem, just dunno. Strange how all the usernames could be vanished? | |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4079] | I don't think the port is the problem. |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4080] | what does your users.set contain? |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4081x3] | What I think it's doing is that it's reading the wrong server folder, possibly one that doesn't exist. |
it contains all users from the Rebol4 world, like it should. | |
now I thought lsof would show what files it's reading, but it doesn't show anything. | |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4084] | That is not imo possible, dunno ... Must be some OS-X Altme issue - are there filenames case sensitive? Btw - this is simply evil concept, I would shoot someone, who allowed that! |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4085] | well, the problem is exactly the same under Windows. |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4086] | well, but althme does not use any artificial (hidden) settings, no? |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4087] | I'm guessing that it tries to get the "Rebol4" name somehow to read the user list, but does not get anything and then quietly ignores it. |
Pekr 7-Mar-2012 [4088x2] | How do you start your server? altme -s "rebol4" -p 5400 ? |
any older altme.exe around, to try that? | |
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