World: r3wp

Who cares for IE. If it would be for me, I would drop its support 
altogether. And yes, I am anti MS fanatic :-)

What does have Adobe to do with it?

 The majority of vector content on the web is either in Flash or PDF 
 format.

Flash and vectors? Blah .... Flash is slow junk, just used by everybody 
... Good for adverts, not apps ...

PDF is cool.

Adobe was supporting SVG before they bought Macromedia - now they 
have dropped SVG for Flash.

But you are right, Flash sucks for apps.

Please note that Adobe has announced that it will discontinue support 
for Adobe SVG Viewer on January 1, 2009.

AFAIK, Adobe has discontinued downloads of the SVG Viewer already 
:(

i JUST DOWNLOADED THE PLUG-IN

That's how I found the above quote

Clearly "AFAIK" isn't far enough :)

Interesting conversation on SVG ... perhaps it would be better to 
continue in the SVG Renderer group (or just rename it to SVG?) no?

IE needs the Adobe plugin to view SVG.  I believe but have not seen 
it working that FF has/were building their own viewer built in.

I don't agree, that "Flash is slow junk". It was very well designed 
for creating interactive animations. And it supports things, which 
SVG is missing... as for example possibility to cache vector drawing 
as a bitmap. If something is slow, in most cases it's not Macromedia's 
fault.

maybe it's not that slow, but still, Flash is junk

BrainH, I won't belabour the point, I'm simply still unclear how 
once can make REBOL really much faster by making byte-code from it. 
 But, perhaps someone will, and make a demo, and prove it to me in 
the future… I agree that Zip XML is not a solution, but unless the 
Pcode system for XML is built into the browser, I don't see an advantage 
there either yet.

I'll be the first to use both though, when they exist.

Ashley, yes, will move future SVG convo to group…

Rebolek: tell me why?

Reichart, Rebin won't make REBOL run faster internally, but it would 
improve the storage and transmittal of REBOL data, so things like 
/Services would be faster. Internally REBOL is already fast.

I know most people here are still treating SaaS as a red headed step 
child…but guys, it IS what is happening…  : )

Check this out:

http://code.google.com/apis/chart/#url_format


They got to it before Richard and I could complete ours, and given 
there license (don't worry about it if you use it less than 250K 
times a day!), we are probably just going to support it directly.


How about writing a REBOL interface that lets you test it first, 
then out puts Google compatible REST?


Even without Google Charts, it is a stand alone useful program, but 
WITH Google, it might get noticed by the public.


One should be able to whip this together quickly, and it would be 
a useful simple report component everyone could use.

that was released quite a while ago wasn't it?

I didn't think it could do time series ...so I didn't persue it.

It gets better, all the time...Google has a habit of that...

can't see that they do it yet

Point me to a graph on the web that looks like what you want.  I'm 
planning to use them, but clearly, there are things they don't do, 
and I plan to do that in REBOL, but use the same trick.

This is what I have at present.  https://www.compkarori.co.nz.. 
login as guest/1234 select results/laborator and click on any of 
the results to bring up a graph at the bottom of the page.

Cool stuff (wow, what a CAPTCHA! LOL)

So for example,

You want to hand it:

A range - 60 to 100 mmHg for example.
A bunch of data (dates with values)


I would have to study Google.Graphs, but it seems they allow this.

that's Nenad's captch library at work.

It's bundled with Cheyenne I think.

Most graphing programs aren't smart enough to deal with dates and 
values ....

most free ones ...

I had to write my own in postscript http://synapse-images.s3.amazonaws.com/73C55E9348E30B2419011E4D87DDCDCE.pdf

ie. I used Rebol to generate the postscript graphs

Just so I'm clear, what is missing from this: http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=lc&chs=200x100&chd=s:frothsmzndyoteepngenfrothsmzndyoteepngen&chxt=x,y&chxl=0:|Apr|May|June|1:||50+Kb

Not sure what I'm seeing.  I get an endless wait.

There's a line graph with 3 months on the x-axis.

what I want to do is feed date data and let the graph program automatically 
generate the x-axis labels.

Hmmm....I'm not familiar with Google Graph yet enough to confirm.

But...this is another one of those areas we are starting to play 
with.  I really like thier basic method, although, SOAP might be 
nice so one can work in something more like XML

Does google expect you to supply the x-axis labels and spaces them 
evenly ?

That is what I was just studying...

This is what I am using now http://www.ejschart.com/

Very cool.

I looked at it a long time ago.

Is there a problem with google generating images with a https website? 
 You'll get all those annoying messages about mixed content

well, at least with IE.

Yeah, true, interesting...

Which is why I switched to hosting yahoo's libraries rather than 
using their servers

So, using google graphs is not an option for me.

Interesting...

I need the files (6 years old, gone even in the waybackmachine.org) 
that I posted here: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-message.r?m=rmlBCNJ


Anybody has the-vault.zip and can mail it to me? That would be really 
appreciated!!!!

Done.