World: r3wp

it seems as if  R3 will allow us to link to rebol itself... so this 
might be possible... as you have noticed... too in some of Carl's 
R3 posts.

I am not sure it is possible. Is Python just some kind of direct 
C extension or what?

internally it using the same type structure (immutable strings, etc)

and in loads C stubs easily. so you don't have to try and make it 
work... its python's main feature... its so easy, everyone is able 
to port their legacy C stuff and then use it within a scripted env.

and most C libs are within python as-is, so things like sockets, 
regexp, threads and such use the same mechanics and nomenclature... 
so there is very little adapting a part from the peculiar indent 
grouping.

obviously, python has other merits, but making C integration that 
easy made many developpers "take the risk" of trying it out, since 
it did not means wasting years of investment.

there is nothing like proving an easy, lazy path to migration.

proving= providing

that sounds good. I tried to look into Ruby and Python, and if I 
would learn another new language, I would learn python - the syntax 
is pretty readable ...

Yes, and the language is as capable as rebol, except for symbolic 
manipulation. But with a good parser generator you can do a lot

guys, don't you  know any application, which would be able to generate 
traffic? I want to install two Mikrotik routers in Dual Nstreme mode, 
and I would like to test real-life thoughput. Copying one big file 
amongst two ends is interesting test for line stability, but there 
is a difference if you run one connection, or few hundreds ones ...

IIRC there was some perl tool to test Apache, but it required Apache 
(webserver) on the other end .... I need something like "point-to-point" 
testing tool ...

rebol would notwork for that?

Volker - did not think about that :-)

I would have to implement some kind of tasking ... not sure 1 rebol 
process is able to generat the throughput ...

and - how would I measure real packet size? I am not interested in 
data-only size .... Hmm, but ethernet plus ip plus tcp header have 
some constant overhead I think :-)

with  async?

if  one of  the gurus steps  in to write the  script^^

I have my own, very short but working - multiserver ....

I just should generate 1000 opened connections and try to send random 
data ....

without async there are little hidden waits for handshaking AFAIK.

yes, probably connection times ... hmm, interesting idea, I might 
try it anyway ....

or  a  script  to launch some processes, each using sync io.

I can start multiple Rebol instances with the same script. I think 
that multiplexing to some 100 ports per instance should be ok,  no? 
I can open connections first, then start sending data ....

iperf

http://dast.nlanr.net/Projects/Iperf/

Petr, iperf is the de facto tool for this. We use it in the Detective 
as well

ok, thanks guys, looks good. I am just studying command-line options 
...

I have my rebol multi-server, hopefully it would work, but I would 
need to think of how to do calculations :-)

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I posted two REBOL puzzles recently not receiving any response. Just 
interested to know why, since I don't think they are really hard.

(are they?)

I thought the questions were a little unclear.

but now that I reread I understand.

Just busy here (haven't even been on this world for a while). I think 
the abstract/guru-level stuff attracts a much smaller crowd than 
the "write the fastest code" kind of challenge. Maybe it's the competetive 
nature versus deep thinking and problem solving.

or just that must of us dont have the proper knowledge to compete 
  ;-)

I made a code snippet checklist. I thought it might be handy, rather 
than pasting miles of code inside the groups.

good idea!

And

maybe you should add the author in the title?

I finally got Opera to download and run on my PC.  I find it very 
nice, but SLOW.

I like the thumbnail view of all sites by default on the "new tab." 
 Since I'm new to it, and a few of you around here already know - 
what are teh top best features about it?

If I were to do the same for FF it would:

- Fast
- Same interface on all the platforms I use
- Firebug (killer debugging tool)
- Getting better every day

firebug IS awesome.

I like Opera's MAgic Wand (auto fills in Password).  I need to feel 
it in more examples.  But it seems cool.

Opera is slow?! From my experience Way faster on older computers 
(1 GHz, Windows XP) than Firefox.
If Win98 - older version is better.

I have intermittent problems with Opera. Sometimes it takes a very 
long time to display a page.

When  it works, it is fine; when it is sulking like that, it is a 
total pain. There is some inconclusive discussion in their support 
forum, and they never replied to my feedback/bug notification.

It seems to be connected to JavaScript heavy sites.

But ther is no quesiton, FF is faster than Opera on everything I'm 
testing, including Yahoo.