World: r3wp

And venting does not come with offers to pay for stuff...it does 
not come with solutions.  Lets move forward and MAKE something.

I don't go to non rebol language sites !

How looks vanilla? I like it, by i am no art-guy.

I tried using vanilla for this purpose ... but I'm not a graphics/design 
guy

and vanilla is so sloooooow

Your server had technical problems. First i was reluctant to spawn 
a process, then i forgot a bit about it.

well, it was actually a rebol problem .. I wasn't the only one to 
report hanging daemons.

I heard there is a combination of uniserv and vanilla, which is much 
faster. I guess vanilla runs on a daemon then. by cgi, it scans tons 
of files each time.

And here's another attempt using mediawiki

http://compkarori.com/rebolwiki/index.php/Main_Page

I know. Sorry for wording.

Wanted topoint out: This is a dedicated box.

I think you're talking about implementation details .. whereas R 
is looking at the overall picture.

I guess we're talking about finding a portal ...

No, wanted to push vanilla a bit. I think you are hit by bad experience.

I'm open to what every one agrees on.  If it works it works, if it 
does not it does not.

well, you can run vanilla .. but someone needs to customise it to 
give it that inviting/live look.

How much load/data etc do you expect?

I hope the original developers are interested. Have seen some different 
looks, if that developers jump in?

Hard to tell.

This is a vanilla site heavily customised by Chris

http://www.ross-gill.com/

I think it needs a news section, a chat section, a download section, 
a place to vote and comment on software.

what about this site http://www.zope.org/

The Web Site for the Zope Community

http://www.compkarori.com/vanillai like the calendar.

(btw in 3 days you can make a 1000days-party :)

hehe

Its possible to run multiple vanillas. Then each project can have 
its own look.

Sharing user-accounts, maybe some way of cross-linking, maybe changing 
the dialects in a more rebol-way.

now, that was a news site ... blog etc... but after a 1000 days, 
not a single news entry except by myself.

so, I'm somewhat pessemistic about a community collaboration on such 
a project.

this is not a problem that can be solved by throwing a server at 
it .. as we already done that.

The best place to look may be the french community?

who knows ...

so, I'm somewhat pessemistic about a community collaboration on such 
a project.


Pessimism implies something can fail…what can fail here?  Centralized 
information does not exist.  Building a site that centralizes information 
instantly accomplished the goal, as long as it can be updated by 
the very creation of information.  If it was nothing but an RSS transponder 
it would already accomplish something.


The trick to all of this is simply opening everything up.  Which 
brings up another great example, you blog, and your blogs have 0 
comments.  I blog (to a more private forum not computer related), 
I get anywhere between 20 and 100 comments.  But it is because I'm 
linked off a centralized feed.


People need to be invited in, given places to go, and know that things 
are happening.

I think of an alternate explanation .. Altme consumes all the chat 
resources available.

look at http://www.reboltalk.com/forums/.. the last post Nov 26.

How about free hosting, like lycos or such? peoples build their homes 
there, add rebol-widgets to pages? To get a community running?

I think of an alternate explanation .. Altme/Rebol3 consumes all 
the chat resources available of the more prominent supporters.


This is my point!  We are all hidden in here.  It is elitist, and 
there isn't even a way for people to come in easily.  Sure we will 
have to deal with Trolls (don't we already?)  but we can see some 
new blood as well.

Volker, in fact that is sort of what I'm saying.   Except I'm not 
suggesting anyone needs to move their stuff to this site, quite the 
opposite.  The site is to centralize all the information about all 
the other sites and places.  It is mostly a giant voting engine.

The news is just the top stories.

The forum is just a place for people to ask questions, in fact the 
mirror of Rebol3 should be there.


The library would still be over on Rebol.org.  but the reviews would 
be on RebolCentral.com.

I did not mean host only rebol. Host daily stuff, blogs. Then the 
devs are wizards in a community.

And the others get contact with rebol, because they can add guestbooks 
etc on their pages.

I'm cool with adding this stuff.

rebol.org already has "voting" in that you can see which scripts 
have been downloaded.

but I think you have to login to see this stuff.

Knowing the download is useful, but outright voting/ranking is needed.


Off the top of my head a script needs:

Category
Lines of code
Author(s)
Publisher
License
Requirements
One sentence description.
500 word description.
filesize
Date of last update 
Version

History (when it was updated, lines of code, version numbers, etc).
Screen shots (if applicable)
Average rating
Review formatted as Pro and Con.
Editor's rating & Review
Comments: (hangs off the forum)

Connections to other scripts? "Customers who downloaded this script 
downloaded also"?

Exactyl!  Now you're talking.

2006 in 40 minutes, till later

Graham wins the 
first to say something can't be done" award.".. 

Graham, looks like you've earned the coveted "energy vampire" award 
for today.

Please, no IOS.

My suggestion, promote the mailing list..and use IRC.

Example, the committe in charge can use IRC for regular discussions, 
and anyone who may have interests on any topic can just logon to 
the channel and take part.


Reduce the 'elitism' part. ....make it more accessible for developers. 
Some of them could be on Mac etc.