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[#Red] Red language group

kensingleton
20-Jul-2013
[9552]
Doc and/or Kaj, at what point will we be able to use Red and R/S 
to start things off by programming the MBR and jumping to a Red OS. 
What I am interested in is learning to use Red and R/S to build a 
native O/S from the ground up as this is the best way to truly understand 
computers. Also a PC that is Red and R/S from the ground up is a 
very exciting prospect.
DocKimbel
20-Jul-2013
[9553]
Pekr: "alpha" means "feature-incomplete". See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Alpha


The alpha phase usually ends with a feature freeze, indicating that 
no more features will be added to the software. At this time, the 
software is said to be feature complete.
Bas
20-Jul-2013
[9554]
Why does Carl think you are going to be (de)motivated?
DocKimbel
20-Jul-2013
[9555x2]
Kensingleton: for writing your own OS, you will need to write a custom 
file emitter for Red/System unless ELF could also be used for that?
Bas: it's just second-hand interpretation of Carl saying that if 
he would be about to rewrite Rebol, he would took R3 approach again.
Bas
20-Jul-2013
[9557]
OK.
Kaj
20-Jul-2013
[9558]
Ken, several people seem to want to do that, so it is likely to happen
Andreas
20-Jul-2013
[9559]
With EFI you should be able to boot PE executables.
DocKimbel
20-Jul-2013
[9560]
Finally back home, need to upgrade my PC with more RAM and better 
wifi adapter tomorrow, then I'll get back to coding...(I really miss 
coding these last days)
Kaj
20-Jul-2013
[9561]
You need more RAM for Red?
onetom
20-Jul-2013
[9562]
Doc: you should consider a 128 GB SSD or at least a hybrid HDD+SSD 
drive from Seagate. That's why that Mac Air was running so fast, 
which you have avoided taking... I just realized 5 minutes after 
you left w Brian that you didn't take it w you... :/
Bo
20-Jul-2013
[9563]
Kaj: He must be upgrading from 4MB to 8MB. ;-)
AdrianS
20-Jul-2013
[9564]
Just in time for some Red-based immersive 3D games?

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1944625487/omni-move-naturally-in-your-favorite-game
DocKimbel
21-Jul-2013
[9565x5]
I'm upgrading from 3GB to 12GB, I kept having "out of memory" error 
after opening a few dozens web pages and starting some heavy tools 
like Eclipse, Android Emulator or various VM...now I should be able 
to run everything at the same time. ;-)
I'm using only SSD disks since 5-6 years, and HDD only for backups. 
My configuration has one 32GB SSD for OS and one 64GB for VMs. Now 
that SSD prices have dropped significantly, I bought two cheap 128GB 
SSD, so I won't have to fight anymore with disk space for a while.
@onetom: your offer was more than generous, but I couldn't take it, 
you need it too. I'm exchanging it with a few days at your place 
in Hong-Kong in a couple of month if that's fine with you. ;-)
FYI, I should be travelling to China later this year, so I'll try 
to visit PeterWAWood and onetom on the road.
I'll try to have the Android framework ready before going, so I'll 
be able to make some presentations and demos to local Android groups 
wherever I go.
Arnold
21-Jul-2013
[9570]
@Doc, What is the next on Red development? New progress plans are 
made on Recode?  In your experience what was the best of Recode?
amacleod
21-Jul-2013
[9571x2]
Playing around with some of the bindings but having difficulty getting 
all the stuff needed to compile. Trying to compile Kaj's webkit gtk 
binding example...any docs around on how do do this stuff?
Its looking for GLib.reds but I do not see that file in the bindings 
links
DocKimbel
21-Jul-2013
[9573x2]
Alan, here's the link for getting the latest GLib binding from Kaj:

http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-GLib/zip/Red+GLib+Binding-a351576b5f3af0d9.zip?uuid=a351576b5f3af0d9d156dec0dcfadb0a662f5030
You can have a look at the files online here: 
http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-GLib/dir?ci=tip
amacleod
21-Jul-2013
[9575]
thanks
DocKimbel
21-Jul-2013
[9576]
Once we'll be able to encap Red, Kaj should be able to provide unique 
binaries with all bindings included. It will be much easier for testing/evaluating 
purposes.
amacleod
21-Jul-2013
[9577x2]
Very Exciting
Now needs "common/FPU-configuration.reds"
DocKimbel
21-Jul-2013
[9579]
Ah! I remember this one, let me check where it comes from...
amacleod
21-Jul-2013
[9580]
Don't look too hard...just playing around here...
DocKimbel
21-Jul-2013
[9581x2]
I'm multiplexing tasks (as usual). ;-)
http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-common/dir?ci=tip

Direct download:

http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-common/zip/Common+Red+Definitions+and+Utilities-51981a6662cdec45.zip?uuid=51981a6662cdec45d0797fddd84945f4029e9637
amacleod
21-Jul-2013
[9583]
Compiled! Great, Thanks
DocKimbel
21-Jul-2013
[9584]
If you need the GTK DLLs, you can get them from there:


http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/zip/Red%28System%29+Testing-6a2f49701652c61f.zip?uuid=6a2f49701652c61f108f0f9259827b38d35f6dda
Arnold
21-Jul-2013
[9585]
The needed files can be found in directories like
http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-GTK/timeline
http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-common/timeline
http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-C-library/timeline
http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-GLib/timeline

Atm I do not have an exhaustive overview of these, unfortunately 
the directory listing is not available to the general public.
What file is linking to GLib.reds?
DocKimbel
21-Jul-2013
[9586]
Arnold, it is possible to extract such list from this script:

http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/artifact/9aa61f0739992c5f6374f25cbc390dac9e34bcd2
Arnold
21-Jul-2013
[9587]
Oh already answered question, that explains why I had to restart 
AltME. Sorry.
amacleod
21-Jul-2013
[9588]
Arnold, wha about the webkitgtk dll?
Arnold
21-Jul-2013
[9589x2]
@Doc, Ah yes indeed the download.r script! I need to try to get that 
working here together with fossil.

@amacleod, your question has been answered to your satisfaction regarding 
10:33. My previous answer was my try to give some extra info on the 
whereabouts of the files that Kaj provided,as he has been away for 
an hour or so. At 10:50 I had not received the posts from 10:05 and 
later.
directories under red.esperconsultancy.nl are according to the script 
download.r:

test common C-library cURL ZeroMQ-binding REBOL-3 Java SQLite SDL 
OpenGL GLib GTK GTK-WebKit OSM-GPS-Map GTK-Champlain 6502

I copied my list from my browser address field history. Should have 
noticed GLib (first I had tried GLIB and found nothing) was the one 
you asked for.
Kaj
21-Jul-2013
[9591x4]
People, no need to do all that manually. Just run the download.r 
with Fossil installed
Also, there are already single binaries with all my bindings included 
for the Red interpreter console:
http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/dir?ci=tip
Well, most bindings. WebKit and such are too non-standard to include
Pekr
23-Jul-2013
[9595]
Kaj, I already several times tried to look for something, not being 
succesfull. I always need to look up for certain link. Why your main 
domain - http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/, displays just "not found"? 
Imo there should be some central page, displaying the list of your 
projects .... would really simplify the move between fossil mess 
...
Arnold
23-Jul-2013
[9596x5]
I managed to get the fossildownload from the download.r script running, 
unfortunately everything ended in the downloads folder where the 
script was still placed. I reran the script from the folder I wanted 
the repositories to land. I copied the terminal information output 
to a text document for there are several passwords created for the 
repos and I had not yet time to store them properly..
No I have all the files from the Red.esperconsultancy.nl site complete 
locally.
No need to look the links up over and over again.
The domain is owned by Bas. Think it is company policy. To keep the 
links from search engines etc.
Whenever asked for the correct link, Kaj provides it. Or a volunteer 
like me posts a reminder. :-)
Pekr
23-Jul-2013
[9601]
How does anyone know, there is a download script?