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kensingleton 20-Jul-2013 [9552] | Doc and/or Kaj, at what point will we be able to use Red and R/S to start things off by programming the MBR and jumping to a Red OS. What I am interested in is learning to use Red and R/S to build a native O/S from the ground up as this is the best way to truly understand computers. Also a PC that is Red and R/S from the ground up is a very exciting prospect. |
DocKimbel 20-Jul-2013 [9553] | Pekr: "alpha" means "feature-incomplete". See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Alpha The alpha phase usually ends with a feature freeze, indicating that no more features will be added to the software. At this time, the software is said to be feature complete. |
Bas 20-Jul-2013 [9554] | Why does Carl think you are going to be (de)motivated? |
DocKimbel 20-Jul-2013 [9555x2] | Kensingleton: for writing your own OS, you will need to write a custom file emitter for Red/System unless ELF could also be used for that? |
Bas: it's just second-hand interpretation of Carl saying that if he would be about to rewrite Rebol, he would took R3 approach again. | |
Bas 20-Jul-2013 [9557] | OK. |
Kaj 20-Jul-2013 [9558] | Ken, several people seem to want to do that, so it is likely to happen |
Andreas 20-Jul-2013 [9559] | With EFI you should be able to boot PE executables. |
DocKimbel 20-Jul-2013 [9560] | Finally back home, need to upgrade my PC with more RAM and better wifi adapter tomorrow, then I'll get back to coding...(I really miss coding these last days) |
Kaj 20-Jul-2013 [9561] | You need more RAM for Red? |
onetom 20-Jul-2013 [9562] | Doc: you should consider a 128 GB SSD or at least a hybrid HDD+SSD drive from Seagate. That's why that Mac Air was running so fast, which you have avoided taking... I just realized 5 minutes after you left w Brian that you didn't take it w you... :/ |
Bo 20-Jul-2013 [9563] | Kaj: He must be upgrading from 4MB to 8MB. ;-) |
AdrianS 20-Jul-2013 [9564] | Just in time for some Red-based immersive 3D games? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1944625487/omni-move-naturally-in-your-favorite-game |
DocKimbel 21-Jul-2013 [9565x5] | I'm upgrading from 3GB to 12GB, I kept having "out of memory" error after opening a few dozens web pages and starting some heavy tools like Eclipse, Android Emulator or various VM...now I should be able to run everything at the same time. ;-) |
I'm using only SSD disks since 5-6 years, and HDD only for backups. My configuration has one 32GB SSD for OS and one 64GB for VMs. Now that SSD prices have dropped significantly, I bought two cheap 128GB SSD, so I won't have to fight anymore with disk space for a while. | |
@onetom: your offer was more than generous, but I couldn't take it, you need it too. I'm exchanging it with a few days at your place in Hong-Kong in a couple of month if that's fine with you. ;-) | |
FYI, I should be travelling to China later this year, so I'll try to visit PeterWAWood and onetom on the road. | |
I'll try to have the Android framework ready before going, so I'll be able to make some presentations and demos to local Android groups wherever I go. | |
Arnold 21-Jul-2013 [9570] | @Doc, What is the next on Red development? New progress plans are made on Recode? In your experience what was the best of Recode? |
amacleod 21-Jul-2013 [9571x2] | Playing around with some of the bindings but having difficulty getting all the stuff needed to compile. Trying to compile Kaj's webkit gtk binding example...any docs around on how do do this stuff? |
Its looking for GLib.reds but I do not see that file in the bindings links | |
DocKimbel 21-Jul-2013 [9573x2] | Alan, here's the link for getting the latest GLib binding from Kaj: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-GLib/zip/Red+GLib+Binding-a351576b5f3af0d9.zip?uuid=a351576b5f3af0d9d156dec0dcfadb0a662f5030 |
You can have a look at the files online here: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-GLib/dir?ci=tip | |
amacleod 21-Jul-2013 [9575] | thanks |
DocKimbel 21-Jul-2013 [9576] | Once we'll be able to encap Red, Kaj should be able to provide unique binaries with all bindings included. It will be much easier for testing/evaluating purposes. |
amacleod 21-Jul-2013 [9577x2] | Very Exciting |
Now needs "common/FPU-configuration.reds" | |
DocKimbel 21-Jul-2013 [9579] | Ah! I remember this one, let me check where it comes from... |
amacleod 21-Jul-2013 [9580] | Don't look too hard...just playing around here... |
DocKimbel 21-Jul-2013 [9581x2] | I'm multiplexing tasks (as usual). ;-) |
http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-common/dir?ci=tip Direct download: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-common/zip/Common+Red+Definitions+and+Utilities-51981a6662cdec45.zip?uuid=51981a6662cdec45d0797fddd84945f4029e9637 | |
amacleod 21-Jul-2013 [9583] | Compiled! Great, Thanks |
DocKimbel 21-Jul-2013 [9584] | If you need the GTK DLLs, you can get them from there: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/zip/Red%28System%29+Testing-6a2f49701652c61f.zip?uuid=6a2f49701652c61f108f0f9259827b38d35f6dda |
Arnold 21-Jul-2013 [9585] | The needed files can be found in directories like http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-GTK/timeline http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-common/timeline http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-C-library/timeline http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-GLib/timeline Atm I do not have an exhaustive overview of these, unfortunately the directory listing is not available to the general public. What file is linking to GLib.reds? |
DocKimbel 21-Jul-2013 [9586] | Arnold, it is possible to extract such list from this script: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/artifact/9aa61f0739992c5f6374f25cbc390dac9e34bcd2 |
Arnold 21-Jul-2013 [9587] | Oh already answered question, that explains why I had to restart AltME. Sorry. |
amacleod 21-Jul-2013 [9588] | Arnold, wha about the webkitgtk dll? |
Arnold 21-Jul-2013 [9589x2] | @Doc, Ah yes indeed the download.r script! I need to try to get that working here together with fossil. @amacleod, your question has been answered to your satisfaction regarding 10:33. My previous answer was my try to give some extra info on the whereabouts of the files that Kaj provided,as he has been away for an hour or so. At 10:50 I had not received the posts from 10:05 and later. |
directories under red.esperconsultancy.nl are according to the script download.r: test common C-library cURL ZeroMQ-binding REBOL-3 Java SQLite SDL OpenGL GLib GTK GTK-WebKit OSM-GPS-Map GTK-Champlain 6502 I copied my list from my browser address field history. Should have noticed GLib (first I had tried GLIB and found nothing) was the one you asked for. | |
Kaj 21-Jul-2013 [9591x4] | People, no need to do all that manually. Just run the download.r with Fossil installed |
Also, there are already single binaries with all my bindings included for the Red interpreter console: | |
http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/dir?ci=tip | |
Well, most bindings. WebKit and such are too non-standard to include | |
Pekr 23-Jul-2013 [9595] | Kaj, I already several times tried to look for something, not being succesfull. I always need to look up for certain link. Why your main domain - http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/, displays just "not found"? Imo there should be some central page, displaying the list of your projects .... would really simplify the move between fossil mess ... |
Arnold 23-Jul-2013 [9596x5] | I managed to get the fossildownload from the download.r script running, unfortunately everything ended in the downloads folder where the script was still placed. I reran the script from the folder I wanted the repositories to land. I copied the terminal information output to a text document for there are several passwords created for the repos and I had not yet time to store them properly.. |
No I have all the files from the Red.esperconsultancy.nl site complete locally. | |
No need to look the links up over and over again. | |
The domain is owned by Bas. Think it is company policy. To keep the links from search engines etc. | |
Whenever asked for the correct link, Kaj provides it. Or a volunteer like me posts a reminder. :-) | |
Pekr 23-Jul-2013 [9601] | How does anyone know, there is a download script? |
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