World: r4wp

So Red/System is like a base for Red?

Like C is the base for World, yes

ok

And how far is it developed?

Enough to write Red in it :-)

ok, and how far is Red?

So if I would try install the gtk+ using brew, do I write:
brew install gtk+
?

As I said above, best to run GTK-browser to get a feel for the state 
of Red

yes, and I needed gtk+ for that, right? And I needed brew to get 
gtk+.

Yes, so?

Not sure if the name is exactly gtk+. Was that the name of the formula?

So I'm asking, if I know should write
	brew install gtk+

or what? I suggest that, because I see something similar on the brew 
page:
http://mxcl.github.io/homebrew/
, where they do a
	brew install wget

gtk+.br

Yes, you need to fill in the name of the formula

I try. :)

Then the command should be correct. But you should upgrade Xcode 
first

It's doing something.

nah, I try. :)

You get to keep the pieces if you break it

Downloading http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.bz2
make install

Downloading https://downloads.sf.net/project/machomebrew/Bottles/gettext-0.1

Downloading http://mirrors.kernel.org/sources.redhat.com/libffi/libffi-3.0.1
make install
Installing gtk+ dependency: glib

Downloading http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/glib/2.36/glib-2.36.2.tar
Downloading patches

./configure --disable-maintainer-mode --disable-dtrace --disable-modular-tes
make
make install
Installing gtk+ dependency: jpeg

Downloading https://downloads.sf.net/project/machomebrew/Bottles/jpeg-8d.lio
Installing gtk+ dependency: libtiff
Downloading http://download.osgeo.org/libtiff/tiff-4.0.3.tar.gz
make install
...
and a lot in between. continuing...

Looks good

Now you have an impression what I've been doing on Syllable in the 
past decade :-)

Installing gtk+ dependency: gdk-pixbuf

Downloading http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gdk-pixbuf/2.28/gdk-pixbu
make
make install
Installing gtk+ dependency: icu4c

Downloading https://downloads.sf.net/project/machomebrew/Bottles/icu4c-51.1.
Installing gtk+ dependency: fontconfig

Downloading http://fontconfig.org/release/fontconfig-2.10.93.tar.bz2
Patching
make install
...

:D

It reminds me a bit on my RedHat days.

Yep

Installing gtk+ dependency: harfbuzz

Downloading http://www.freedesktop.org/software/harfbuzz/release/harfbuzz-0.
make install
Installing gtk+ dependency: pixman

Downloading http://cairographics.org/releases/pixman-0.30.0.tar.gz
make install
...

My Red/System bindings include partial bindings for the GLib and 
GDK-PixBuf libraries you see there, to support GTK

Installing gtk+ dependency: cairo

Downloading http://cairographics.org/releases/cairo-1.12.14.tar.xz
...

I begin to hear the fans in my MacBook.

Yep, building is mostly CPU bound

cairo is a large download

Mwah, not really, compared to the rest. Perhaps the site is slow

If you look in /usr/local/lib do you see new *.a files?

make install
Installing gtk+ dependency: pango

Downloading http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/pango/1.34/pango-1.34.1.t
make
make install
Installing gtk+ dependency: atk

Downloading http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/atk/2.8/atk-2.8.0.tar.xz
make
make install
Installing gtk+

!!! yay! there it is

Downloading http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/gtk+/2.24/gtk+-2.24.18.ta
make install
...

a couple GB taken so far, it seems.

from the HD

Done, it seems.

So now I should be able to run your demo?

GTK-browser isn't executable. Should I make it and run from terminal 
or what?

513 ~/Downloads$ chmod +x GTK-browser 
514 ~/Downloads$ ./GTK-browser 
dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.dylib
  Referenced from: /Users/john/Downloads/./GTK-browser
  Reason: no suitable image found.  Did find:

 /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.dylib: mach-o, but wrong architecture
Trace/BPT trap: 5

Doesn't seem to run. :/

Yes, that way you also get stdout output from the demos

Do you have a 64 bit system?

yes

Hm, then you have to find out how to get Homebrew to compile 32 bit 
versions of all that

ok

Gotta get some sleep.

Maybe tomorrow. nite nite

Yeah, later

The easiest way to try Red on Mac is to get the red-core interpreter 
from here: