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[#Red] Red language group
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Henrik 15-Jun-2012 [531] | Doc, have you looked at Flattr integration? I've only just heard of it, but maybe it's another donation option for those of us, who are unable to use Paypal and wary about banktransfers. |
DocKimbel 15-Jun-2012 [532x2] | Flattr: yes, and I have received at least one donation on it, but can't retrieve it unless I accept to pay a monthly fee. I understand the logic behind it, but don't find it very handy. |
@Gerard: I will try it under 3.1 in the emulator. | |
GiuseppeC 15-Jun-2012 [534x2] | Doc, no series in RED ? |
Or blocks ? | |
DocKimbel 15-Jun-2012 [536x2] | If Red wouldn't have series and blocks, it wouldn't have much in common with REBOL. ;-) |
@Gerard: works under emulator with 3.1, the kernel version is much lower though than the one you've reported, I have 2.6.29 here. | |
GiuseppeC 15-Jun-2012 [538] | Sorry Doc, I have made the wrong question: I don't see in the documentation block and series manipulation functions. Maybe I am looking at the wrong place ? |
DocKimbel 15-Jun-2012 [539x2] | Which documentation? There's currently no documentation about Red, only about Red/System. |
Red and Red/System are two different things that you should not confuse. | |
GiuseppeC 15-Jun-2012 [541] | Ok, I am officially confused ! :-) |
DocKimbel 15-Jun-2012 [542x2] | :-) |
Have a look at these ones: - http://static.red-lang.org/red-system-specs.html#section-1 - slides 7 to 13 in my SFD presentation: http://www.red-lang.org/2011/09/red-at-software-freedom-day-2011.html | |
Kaj 15-Jun-2012 [544] | The DSL link in the docs is going to the French Wikipedia. You may want to anglicise that |
GiuseppeC 15-Jun-2012 [545x2] | Read ! Very interesting. |
Now I have understood. | |
DocKimbel 15-Jun-2012 [547x2] | Kaj: hehe, good one. :-) |
URL fixed. | |
Gerard 15-Jun-2012 [549x2] | @Doc : Thanks for the try of the emulator - Now installing the Android update for my - almost 50 % left to do after 30 minutes - for an 88 MB download - !!! I will retest after everything is completed... |
@Doc : Now I'm upgraded to Android version 3.2 Kernel is left unchanged to version 2.6.36.3 - Will try later for the tests - other more urgent taks are awaiting for me now ... | |
DocKimbel 15-Jun-2012 [551] | No problem, I will test with 3.2 too. |
GiuseppeC 15-Jun-2012 [552] | Doc, Maybe it has been asked thousand of times. Which will be the differences in RED Lang compared to REBOL ? |
Kaj 15-Jun-2012 [553] | Only 999 times :-) |
DocKimbel 15-Jun-2012 [554] | Hehe :-) For the core language, from user perspective, it will be very similar. For the external libs (GUI mainly), Red will provide different options. For more detail, you can re-read all the slides from the two presentations I've made for Red. |
Gerard 15-Jun-2012 [555] | @Doc : No better success even if running from NativeEXE.apk version 0.5 and Android version 3.2 - will continue to read before being able to investigate myself what could be done - Please don't loose your time on this case for now - You have much better to do ... even if it's annoying a bit. I don't despair but I really can't be useful to you for now... my understanding of the inner working of this stuff exceeds my current capabilities ! |
Andreas 17-Jun-2012 [556] | a "hello world!" written in and compiled by red/system running on a raspberry pi: [pi-:-raspberrypi]:~$ ./hello-reds.arm hello from red/system! ([pi-:-raspberrypi]:~$ uname -a Linux raspberrypi 3.1.9+ #90 Wed Apr 18 18:23:05 BST 2012 armv6l GNU/Linux) |
Henrik 17-Jun-2012 [557] | Nice :-) |
Pekr 17-Jun-2012 [558] | cool :-) |
DocKimbel 17-Jun-2012 [559] | Does the provided hello.reds script work too? |
Andreas 17-Jun-2012 [560] | hello.reds works as well, yes. |
GrahamC 17-Jun-2012 [561] | who's raspberrypi ? |
Pekr 17-Jun-2012 [562] | I expect it's Andreas' RaspberryPi, as Doc tweeted, that his is still undelivered? |
Andreas 18-Jun-2012 [563] | Mine, yes. |
Bas 20-Jun-2012 [564x2] | There is now also an English page on Wikipedia about Red: |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_%28programming_language%29 | |
Endo 20-Jun-2012 [566x2] | Cool! |
we can add red-lang.org and cheyenne-server.org links to the external references. | |
Kaj 20-Jun-2012 [568x2] | red-lang.org is there. Cheyenne doesn't have much to do with Red yet |
However, Windows, OS X and Android are missing from the OS entries | |
Endo 21-Jun-2012 [570] | we can copy/paste "about" section from http://www.red-lang.org/p/about.html as well. |
Kaj 21-Jun-2012 [571] | Be careful with that. The Red site is speaking in the future. Wikipedia will not regard that as encyclopedic information |
Endo 21-Jun-2012 [572] | I see. So we will put those information after Red is completed. |
Evgeniy Philippov 22-Jun-2012 [573x2] | It would be interesting for RED to be a strict superset of REBOL... |
It is interesting what does DocKimbel think about such possibility... | |
Kaj 22-Jun-2012 [575] | You're right: as a compiler, it can't be |
DocKimbel 27-Jun-2012 [576x2] | Bas: great work, thank you! |
Evgeniy: I am not sure if a strict superset of REBOL is doable in Red without introducing some important runtime overhead, making the compilation approach much less efficient, so less useful. I'll try to push it as far as possible and will stop when we loose too much performances. | |
Pekr 27-Jun-2012 [578] | Hello Doc - how are you doing, lately? Still busy with the non-red related contract? :-) |
DocKimbel 27-Jun-2012 [579] | Unfortunately yes, but it should end in about ten days, so I could finally get back to the interesting stuff. I'm becoming an MQL4 language expert now, and I really don't like that (even if it can make me see some interesting niche opportunities for a Red dialect). ;-) |
Pekr 27-Jun-2012 [580] | Well, as for dialects, I still can see PARSE as a secret weapon. Hopefully Red gets to R3 or Topaz level, as far as parsing goes. We could create some dialects for niches, I think ppl would see the advantage ... |
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