World: r4wp

We can't work like that imo :-) I went thru the process several times. 
We have to define qualities we want to reflect, etc. But RED, red 
is "just" a color. What can represent that? Something red, perhaps 
:-)

symbolism is that your wishes will be granted if you try hard enough, 
and the impossible is possible.  We don't need the wizard of oz to 
help us.

in this case, the wizard is Carl :)

And if anyone finds red, it's a perfect fit ...

Simple 10 minutes creation ...but I don't like how it turned out 
:-) http://xidys.com/pekr/rebol/red-logo1.jpg

using 2 different fonts ..looks unbalanced

can the ED be bolder?

What about 

>>RED
talk dialects


the >> is a play on the target image used in REBOL where >> is both 
from a console,and also an arrow head?

Still not there :-) http://xidys.com/pekr/rebol/red-logo2.jpg

But having fun :-)

Yes, for >> I can use some pictograms ...

too much text in that one I feel ...

I know - the bottom slogan could be replaced by link to webpage ...

Few more creations, still not there ... but -time to sleep ...

http://xidys.com/pekr/rebol/red-logo/

Maybe the Red pill as Doc alludes to. Or let Doc tell us what he 
wants the logo to symbolize.

Interesting selection of designs

Interesting designs indeed, I will try to list my wishes after the 
Devcon this weekend.

Their are nice-looking, but maybe too "corporate"?

They

I like the stylized "R" in the "redlang" logo.

Yes, Redlang is probably the best one, and yes, they are maybe too 
corporate. I am more for a serious stuff, than for a fun ...

Also - I am not a designer, I used one nice tool - http://www.sothink.com/

Those were just tries. Any of the above logo is imo better than what 
Graham originally posted. But I am not satisified either. Here's 
my take, what needs to be considered for the logo to actually "work":


- you should define a brief - namely a description of qualities/characteristics 
of Red. What is Red, what sets it apart, what does it mean to you, 
what should it mean to ppl, what differentiates it from others, etc.


- type of logo - only letters? Letters plus pictogram? Shoul pictogram 
only decorate logo, or is part of the name? Pictograms are often 
related to the business, but I am not sure, if you are easily able 
to relate pictogram to "red", as it is a name of the color. Nor am 
I sure, if pictogram would express a programming language. What I 
would suggest, would be either - pictogram contains "R", which also 
works as a filetype icon. Or pictogram expresses some quality - e.g. 
>> (REBOL/Red prompt), [R] block as one of the main concepts (series)


- color scheme - not much options with something named Red, right? 
:-)


- usability - you should think about the color scheme, and logo in 
various forms - normal, inverse, black&white, icon, letterhead, business 
card, ppt presentation, etc. You can look for inspiration to how 
I aproached 2zone media logo with the agency - http://www.xidys.com/pekr/2zone_media_logotypes/

http://www.pulpinternational.com/images/postimg/menace_to_society_01.jpg

:-)

So I can see, we have merget fast-float and the other branch, nice 
:-)

Doc - how goes your presentation for the Devcon? Interested in the 
Roadmap slide, which surely will be there :-)

I will present the same slides as last time, with just a few updates 
and enhancements.

I thnk Nenad is flying to the Devcon so he wont  need a roadmap.

Peter: a Red roadmap, not Nenad's one :-)

I think Peter made a joke :-)

Nenad is still here after the conference. We debugged SDL audio on 
Syllable. It works now, without libc-init workaround, and it wasn't 
the fault of the new libc-init code in Red

Good to hear :)

Yes, all the bindings that can work on Syllable do now without modifications. 
Except Syllable needs to have SDL video initialised even if you don't 
use it

Kaj - you can port R3 View, while you are at it :-)

The plan is slightly different :-)

and the plan is? :-)

I'm a bit hesitant to tell, because I'm not sure about the viability 
yet

You may have noticed an item "New Project Announcement" on the conference 
schedule

I spent most of last week porting Enlightenment to my Syllable systems

I've managed to get most of it built, but I don't have much running 
yet. It's certain that I can eventually get it to work on my Linux, 
but I'm not sure yet it will succeed on Syllable Desktop

If I'm successful, I will write Red bindings to it

Enlightenment has become fairly portable these days, so it would 
effectively be a View replacement

What? Why not to pack whole 150GB Linux to 400 KB Red executable?

Are you requesting that? :-)

AGG/Cairo/Skia is the only solution acceptable for me, unless proven 
otherwise.

Sorry, but this project is about what's acceptable to me :-)

Ah, well then. Even GTK+ kind of sucks big time ...

Even? GTK is much more monstrous than Enlightenment