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DSL's will become the norm in about 5 more years.  Seems to happen 
with Carl.  

Carl's multitasking personal computer + 15 years, everybody has it. 
Carl's DVD like TV set top box + 15 years, everybody has it.
Carl's multimedia computer + 15 years, everybody has it.
...etc (there are more).


I would not be surprised of something like JSON becomes semantically 
rich.

There are already schema proposals for JSON that can enhance the 
limited semantics.

(that was me agreeing with you)

I gathered that.  Wish Carl could either be or attract the kinds 
of people that can sell what he makes.  I'm sure what he's working 
on next will be just as mind blowing and advanced.

BTW: BrianH, I am both impressed with and appreciate your work.  
Did I ever meet you.  I've been out of the loop for a few years?

I'm sure of that too. However, that is his day job. Hopefully he'll 
eventually get to use Rebol there.

Unless you worked for Qtask in 2008 and met me at the company meeting 
in December, then no. The only other people in the community who 
have met me in person are my own recruits. I've talked to Carl and 
Bo on the phone though.

(not recently though)

Right at the point when it became appropriate for me to go to devcons, 
they stopped holding them in USA and I stopped having the money to 
travel outside USA. So unless my financial situation changes, or 
someone sponsors me, or visits me, then noone will meet me

...in person (AltME flaked on me). I am working on improving my financials 
though.

Robert and Cyphere - Thank you so much for the Android version!

James, you are welcome ;)

BTW Carl restarted the "R3 chat" server so you can just type: "chat" 
in the Android console and leave message here.

With the latest Android version it is nice to try type: HELP in the 
chat input prompt to see the BROWSE works nicely ;)

also you can type LB to get the messages content into browser but 
there is small glitch in the local file URL handling so you need 
to correct the URL string in the browser to see the messages. Will 
be fixed in next release.

That's cool! :)

I believe that R3 Chat would be the PERFECT solution for REBOL communications, 
if we could build a more mature HTML front end.  Will Carl release 
the source?

Or should the community work on reverse engineering and building 
our own drop-in chat solution?

It's been asked a few times already. He always ignores the question, 
it seems.

Almost looks deliberate.

I'd sponsor work on engineering a new chat system.

But I agree that a 'built-in' way to gather the community is key.

Copy what it does - it's not that complex.  Anyone wanna make a few 
extra bucks?

I think some people around here had volunteered with the condition 
of someone sponsoring the effort.

It seems a shame though, given that the code exists.

I'm past that now - R2 code exists, but we'll never get it.  Let's 
move on and make all new contributions permanent.

Maybe BrianH would consider this. R3 could be fixed up as needed 
along the way.

How much do we need to get chat going?

Money, I mean.

I guess it depends on the specs.

What already existed in R3 chat?

http://www.rebol.com/r3/chat.r

That's what we see with "source chat" in R3

The thing is that a more widely useful chat/collaboration feature 
implies a very good UI. That's not something that we have too many 
people capable of at the moment.

That is just the front end.

Nick, did you see my post here of a few days ago on Algodoo?

There's a reason for me asking...

Yep, I looked at it briefly.  Definitely a cool addition to the sorts 
of "modern" things Doc and other have been looking at.

REBOL and Red needs any sort of "sparkle" possible to make people 
take a look.

What's your reason?

Well, my greater point with it is its involvement in education. Your 
chat just now, with Scot and James, made me think some more about 
it.

They, Algoryx, already seem to have a pretty good foothold in education.

Promoting Rebol to them, along with a chat/collaboration feature, 
just makes sense, both for them and for Rebol.

or Red for that matter, but it's not quite there yet.

You should take a look at what Scot has been saying tonight...

I'm thinking that maybe approaching them with the benefits of using 
Rebol as the buil-in scripting language with the possibility of sponsoring 
the chat/collaborative features, might be attractive.

I read all that. It's what made me think this is a good idea, even 
more than before.

From what I have observed, and what Scot was saying, is that we need 
something that is already built but which allows educators to educate.

The number of teachers I know that actually can code is quite small.

That's Scot's idea, but attracting more people to writing REBOL code, 
in any way, is a good thing.