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Right-click and then select rewind takes you back to the beginning.

Gabriele - will Topaz utilise things like encryption? That would 
be handy to have some hashing etc. Other question is - will Topaz 
be able to "wrap" things like jQuery, so that you could write your 
"app" in Topaz, utilising jQuery widgets? Sorry if answers are obvious 
.....

Think JavaScript

Gabriele´s presentation about Topaz during Software Freedom Day 2011 
at the Centrum Wiskunde & Informatica (CWI), Science Park Amsterdam, 
last wednesday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBJHMkN9qJ4

It would be nice for future talks to have a PC screen infront of 
the presenter so that they don't talk to the screen.

Gabriele couldn't connect his laptop, because the available HDMI 
adaptor was incompatible

Heh .. finally a case for power point!

Graham, the windows pc that was there did not have a second screen. 
My laptop has DVI, not HDMI, but only digital DVI, and the projector 
(or, at least tha adaptor that was there) seemed to want analog. 
So I'm sorry if you're looking at my back most of the time, but it 
was hard to do anything without looking at the projector screen :)

Petr: yes on all, of course; the question is only "when". I hope 
soon. (You can already wrap jQuery quite easily)

I'm planning to do something like a Hangout on Google for a Q&A for 
people here that were unable to come to the conference. When would 
it be a good time? Any other suggestion other than Hangout?

onetom: I used Keynote, it can export to a few formats, including 
HTML (by just making PNGs, so it gets pretty big). I can also provide 
the keynote file if useful. (Unfortunately, I was very tight on time 
and was unable to do this in Topaz itself.)

Google hangout is sort of video conferencing?

yes

If anybody's willing to try: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/bbd615d3a9d2db678fba2997f6775604ee6ddfb9?hl=it&authuser=0#

Me and Nenad there at the moment.

Ok, we're out. You missed a good chance. :P

bad timing for me. I would have liked to see it.

I got a message in Italian saying that I can't join the chat without 
a video camera

( my best guess )

Right, you need a webcam. We'll organize another short online meeting 
in October, if you have some questions for Red/Topaz, we'll be glad 
to answer them.

So, system messages appear in the language of the person organizing 
the meeting?

It seems so. I was also a bit surprize when I connected. :)

Graham, I've been on Hangouts with Maarten and he was audio only. 
So my guess is you can ignore the message. It might work without 
a mic as well as they do have a text chat, though we also have altme 
for text.


No idea why Google would use *my* language when other people join... 
I guess they're just silly. :)

Let's try to pick a good day in October... suggestions welcome.

I clicked, but have no webcam and don't have Google voice set up. 
I will try to prepare for the next one.

I'm out Oct 6-10.

AFAIK you only need to download the google plugin. it should be possible 
to connect with other clients as well, but i haven't tried that with 
hangout.

We should make a new Google Hangout session tomorrow at 19:00 CEST. 
Guests are welcome to ask questions about Red & Topaz. I am waiting 
for Gabriele to confirm the meeting date/time.

Graham: you have 24h to find a webcam. :-)

Of note, if there is interest, we could set up a day and be available 
the whole afternoon (for eg) so that more people can come (sort of 
a virtual devcon).

Agreed.

Me to: I got a message in Italian saying that I can't join the chat 
without a video camera

But I have webcam on .. I just logined to google + to see this thing 
..

IIRC, there's a Google Hangout browser plugin to download to enable 
the webcam.

aha ..it was taken by the other window .. now I am in

http://www.google.com/tools/dlpage/res/talkvideo/hangouts/

I was there training some italian :) .. I will try to come by when 
you are around .. but I don't know if I have any smart questions. 
I am just working and working, not thinking about more abstract things 
at the moment

https://plus.google.com/hangouts/c91d52d56861f8fbe94531e66eee7743b118e685

Chat is ongoing, feel free to join...

Chat closed now. We were four peoples online this time (even 5 during 
a minute with Reichart coming to say hello).

nice to hear and see you :)

It was nice to see you too.

I was out of time to prepare some Red/System demos to show, maybe 
next time.

Again, if people post here the dates/times they are available, we 
could do a virtual devcon or something like that.

Perhaps you can do this on a regular basis at fixed times? I know 
there was talk a couple of years back to do regular devcons, but 
there was only one.

Bas is intent on keeping up a half-yearly rhythm for the physical 
conferences. Denmark is not that far ;-)

Gabriele, what works for you? Weekends are usually good for most 
I imagine.

James: I can schedule around almost any time as long as I know in 
advance.


Henrik: yes, however, knowing which times / days of week are best 
for most people would help. :)

Gabriele, yes, however my theory is that if you pick a time (one 
that is friendly to people on both sides of the planet), people will 
eventually start showing up, if you are consistently using that date.

I never knew you were a flat earther Henrik.

Anything after lunch is probably getting too late for people in East 
Asia, Australia and New Zealand.