World: r3wp

Seems smilies don't do much in AltMe.. (used to IRC)

Well, they smile :-)

So, what happened to the old messages in this group?

Several groups seem to have lost their content

On the day Carl stated working on backend servers...

The above host kit link doesn't do much good: it's Windows-configured, 
without interpreter libraries and makefiles for Amiga or Linux

remember that I talked about getting to grips with windows version 
first... which is the only one with graphics done.

;-)

OK, but you also said there was a Linux distro in there

Linux x86: http://www.rebol.com/r3/downloads/r3-core-a107-42.gz

Ah, cool

Place where I found that link: http://www.rebol.com/r3/changes.html

Thanks!

That's Core, though, not the host kit

I already had that through upgrade

Whoops.

So back to jail card

Wrong link: http://www.rebol.com/r3/downloads/r3-host-kit-a107-42.tar.gz

Same page though.

Holding my breath

The download locations seem to be protected by security through obscurity

Indeed.. I tried to find them myself but didn't think to look in 
changes.html

They are on the main changes page on REBOL.com, linked off their 
main page. This is not at all obscure.

Especially for a highly experimental release.

I claim ignorance :)

I claim to never have seen two REBOL filenames that were the same 
- and I'm not talking about version numbers

lol

With every release I have to turn my formal build recipes upside 
down

I was pleasantly (but extremely) surprised that the a107 release 
was stable enough to build a new core with. The a1xx series has been 
really experimental, almost as unstable as other people's alpha software.

R3 host-kits are still very alpha.

Other people's betas are released, like, say a year after their alphas 
- but let's not dwell on that

And I mean formal build recipes for R2 as well

The host-kit has probably changed more architecturally in 3 alpha 
versions than the whole python life cycle.

Is the r3 core lib provided by RT? e.g. r3lib.dll

yes

And less and less of R3 is in it with each release. We are externalizing 
a lot of it into the host portion, where you can see and modify the 
source.

Is there a unit test framework for R3 (e.g. I use CppUnit for C++)?

Ssolie, no.

It is so easy to make unit test frameworks in REBOL that there are 
several. But no official one yet.

well yes there is... RUnit... but its very easy to make your own 
in two pages or rebol.

I'm new to rebol obviously :)

Nevertheless, currently there's no official, published test suite 
for R3.

Not published at least. There is apparently a massive test suite 
for R2 (and possibly R3) that RT uses internally.

And yes, it is in unit test format. We have found that unit test 
vectors are best formatted in the "block of code that returns true 
on success" model.

Remnants of an early attempt at getting something structured going 
for R3 can still be found on R3 chat.

And as far as I understand their are third parties doing internal 
regression testing. Nothing published that i know of, though.

I thought Carl generated a test suite for R3 a few years ago? And 
Ladislav seemed to be executing them

Right now there are so many changes between host kit alphas that 
there tend to be regression bugs with every release. They get fixed.

Ladislav may still be executing them - he's in the development group.

Are there any RT employees that hang around in chat?