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[!REBOL3 Schemes] Implementors guide
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Graham 7-Jan-2010 [292] | Have to use the clipboard to transfer stuff to and from the r3 alpha console |
Pekr 7-Jan-2010 [293] | yes, console under Windows is really bad ... also no multiline support for REBOL code ... |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [294] | Is it better under linux? |
Pekr 7-Jan-2010 [295] | don't know ... |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [296x3] | Not much. |
If you want to suggest a plan for better console, please do. | |
It would not require much on the reblib side to support a console -- most of the code is on the host side. | |
Pekr 7-Jan-2010 [299] | R2 console code is not reusable? |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [300] | The necessary reblib calls would be for things like word completion, since the symbol table is internal to the lib. |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [301] | ditto |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [302] | R2 could be used... but, I had "imagined" there were better packages that we could use and get a full featured console. |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [303x2] | well I don't use word completion ... didn't even know it existed for files |
Le's be practical and reuse R2 | |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [305] | Is that the most practical? What ever happened to operating systems that provide a real console lib? |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [306] | the most practical is to make it usable for users and optimize later on |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [307] | Certainly, we can use our 1998ish console code to start. But, seems a bit backward. |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [308x2] | lacking cut and paste as now is somewhat even more backward! |
Feels like the original console of 1998 which also lacked cut and paste if I recall correctly | |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [310] | What, you can't write everything in one line? |
Maxim 7-Jan-2010 [311] | hehe |
Steeve 7-Jan-2010 [312] | uhuh |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [313] | writing a scheme in one line ... nope |
Steeve 7-Jan-2010 [314] | and what about a graphic console (with gobs) ? |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [315] | You paste schemes?! |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [316] | you're being silly |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [317] | S: that was my goal. |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [318] | I'm responding the same |
Maxim 7-Jan-2010 [319] | C: I have, for testing, it worked very well in R2 |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [320x3] | Actually I was trying to paste in your code samples from the wiki ... |
you need to reformat them all as one liners | |
lol | |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [323x3] | Yes, I have same issue on bug testing from curecode. |
Of course, if that's all you really need, then just write a do-clip function. | |
But, I suspect people want some other features, no? | |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [326] | who cares what others want .. this is Graham's group :) |
Kaj 7-Jan-2010 [327x2] | Current OSes have console libs, but they're different depending on the platform |
So the issue is whether to standardise or diversify | |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [329] | The windows console in Windows 7 is very odd ... if you maximize it , it shifts to the left hand side of the screen. Try and move it and is shrinks back again :( |
Maxim 7-Jan-2010 [330] | I think that is the role of the host. people with experience in OS specific console code should adapt their host code to use it. |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [331] | the dos shell does the same |
Henrik 7-Jan-2010 [332] | ah, so no progress there from win95. |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [333] | Amazing how multibillion dollar companies don't maintain basic utilities. |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [334] | so, if you want to read the examples on a web page ( usuaally placed on the left ) and have an maximized console open .. you can't see both |
Kaj 7-Jan-2010 [335] | As long as there's no meaningful competition... |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [336] | Luckily my secondary LCD screen has arrived now ... |
Kaj 7-Jan-2010 [337] | Rich organisations and people are rich, for one reason, by not spending it |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [338] | Well, no one will reject it outright for bad console. |
Maxim 7-Jan-2010 [339] | Graham... did you try the screen? mine works its really cool. |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [340x2] | Yes .. I have tried it |
Needs 10 points of touch to set it up corectly | |
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