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[!REBOL3 Schemes] Implementors guide

Graham
21-Jan-2010
[1777x2]
which is what I have in my imap scheme ... could use similar for 
ftp
actor: [
	cwd: funct [ dir [string!]][
			write mbox compose [ SELECT (dir) ]
			read mbox
		]
]
Steeve
21-Jan-2010
[1779]
i'm doing differently currently, i only use WRITE to pass block of 
commands to parse
Graham
21-Jan-2010
[1780]
so the user still has low level access to the scheme or not?
Steeve
21-Jan-2010
[1781]
don't know what u mean exactly, so i would say... maybe
Graham
21-Jan-2010
[1782]
the user can still use the port in what carl calls mixed mode ...
Steeve
21-Jan-2010
[1783]
OPEN, WRITE and CLOSE will be the only one usefull actors in my scheme
Graham
21-Jan-2010
[1784x2]
I think mine allows file upload resume by sening a APPE command with 
the rest of the file
but rather than handling it directly ... you can just write the command 
to the port
Steeve
21-Jan-2010
[1786]
a session will be something like:
>> session: open ftp://ftp.site.com
>> write session [
	USER "toto"
	PASS "****"
	PASV
	BINARY
	CD /dir-temp
	GET %thif-file
]
>> close session
Graham
21-Jan-2010
[1787]
ok, looking forward to seeing it ...
Steeve
21-Jan-2010
[1788x2]
and i will use a dialect to construct the state diagrams
for example, the state diagram used to open a ftp session looks like 
this currently.

USER
<< ( 
	(1 2) error
	(4 5) fail
	3 >> PASS << ( 
		2		success
		1		error
		(4 5)	fail
		3 >> ACCT << (
				2   	success
				(1 3) 	error
				4 5 	fail
		)
	)
)

it's a dialect
Graham
21-Jan-2010
[1790]
Nice ...  I'm looking for a dialected flow control GUI tool too :)
Steeve
21-Jan-2010
[1791]
This one, to rename a file:

RNFR ;** rename a file.
<< (
	(1 2) error
	(4 5) fail
	3 (
		>> RTNO
		<< (
			2	success
			(1 3)	error
			(4 5)	fail
		)
	)
)
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[1792x3]
I'm wondering how to interface with Amazon's simple DB.
Both Maarten and I passed the secret and access keys as parameters 
to the various functions, but I think I'd rather have a system/user 
object to store them and use them from there.
So, can we have an extensible system/user object that we can store 
user related data for use in schemes etc ?
BrianH
24-Jan-2010
[1795x5]
system/contexts/user is user-specific, and schemes can store their 
data in their modules if they like.
I don't think we're going to get back system/user - all global options 
are going under system/options, including options about users.
You need to make sure that your data is task-safe too, so changeable 
global options are usually bad unless they are changed through a 
function that synchronizes access. system/contexts/user is task-specific.
Don't know whether system/options will be task-specific - most of 
its options are supposed to be read-only.
The writeable options like binary-base are supposed to be moved to 
on-the-spot function options.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[1800x2]
so, it's system/contexts/user/user ... we can store a user object 
here?
And set-net will store the data here too?
BrianH
24-Jan-2010
[1802x3]
system/contexts/user is the script context. You can put whatever 
script-accessible words you want there.
We are using modules and access functions like set-net instead of 
global options objects, for the most part.
The system structure of R3 is very different from R2.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[1805]
I think we can work with everything being in system/contexts/user/user 
for the purposes of a scheme for the moment
BrianH
24-Jan-2010
[1806]
Remember that 'user is a common script word, so that will be overwritten. 
Use module-local data, or port-specific data.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[1807]
Eh?
BrianH
24-Jan-2010
[1808]
Certainly, set-net shouldn't set anything writeable any other way.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[1809]
Moving on .... an AWS:// scheme can certainly be derived from the 
http scheme
BrianH
24-Jan-2010
[1810x2]
system/contexts/user is the shared "global" context for all user 
scripts (not modules), and that's why it's task-specific.
Maarten did so for Qtask, so I assume that strategy for aws:// would 
work here.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[1812]
Umm.. he rewrote the http scheme I think
BrianH
24-Jan-2010
[1813]
Yeah. Which we need to do too.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[1814x2]
Eh?  What's wrong with Gabriele's http scheme?
Anyway, Maarten had to do all of this because he chose to use the 
REST method of interacting with aws.  To it seems much simpler to 
use SOAP instead.
BrianH
24-Jan-2010
[1816x2]
Chunked encoding is broken, which is why the released version has 
been modded to use http 1.0; error handling is broken (the source 
of most chat errors); no server support; written for an older idea 
of R3 semantics.
Our HTTP scheme should work with REST out-of-the-box too.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[1818x2]
I haven't used the prot-http ...
Is Gabriele ever coming back to work on any R3 stuff ?  Or is he 
a permanent qtask person now?
BrianH
24-Jan-2010
[1820]
It's next on my list after 2.7.8 and R3 compressed modules/scripts.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[1821x2]
Yes, I'm sure it will work with REST ... it's just harder to maintain 
the aws interface each time they change their specifications
So, I suspect it's easier to maintain using SOAP
BrianH
24-Jan-2010
[1823]
I don't use their services (yet) so I wouldn't know.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[1824x3]
Well I was reading their API again over the weekend on the plane 
:)
The main issue is that SOAP has to be over https ... so have to use 
stunnel ... that is if i can get stunnel working under windows 7
And if someone wants REST ... they can do it later on.