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[!REBOL3 Priorities] Project priorities discussion
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BrianH 7-Oct-2009 [2] | Here's a good start: http://rebol.com/r3/docs/project.html |
Maxim 7-Oct-2009 [3] | my priorities 1. Device extensions 2. Image datatype support in extensions 3 Vector datatype support in extensions |
BrianH 7-Oct-2009 [4x2] | My priorities: 1. Finish PROTECT and the other security stuff. 2. Device extensions. 3. Port/networking stuff. |
4. Modularization of the built-in code (might be more of a personal project) | |
Henrik 7-Oct-2009 [6] | My priorities would be related to graphics: 1. VID3.4 re-implementation according to Carl's specs 2. Cyphre's improvements to View, Draw, fonts, etc. 3. VID3.4 skin |
Pekr 7-Oct-2009 [7] | I might be a bit more detailed, and I will not mention things other ppl mentioned here: The stuff that needs adressing, at least in the form that RT states, WHEN and possibly in what form, are those things implemented 1. Concurrency (tasking) 2. RIF - what happened to this concept, and how important it is for 3.0 beta? 3. Codecs - is this concept of read-all-data-into-memory usefull at all? 4. Unicode - what about more locale support? I need to be able to sort using collations, or Unicode is half-way implemented for me 5. find/not - some ppl talked about it as about important feature. I can see only find/first on the list |
Maxim 7-Oct-2009 [8x2] | 4. capacity to copy directly within image! buffer from the extension. 5. tupple support in extensions (very usefull for graphics related functions) |
Henrik, I think carl thinks you can start work on your point (1) right away if you want. | |
Pekr 7-Oct-2009 [10] | Well, while Carl mentions that the table is hard-core :-) only stuff (so no even mezzanine networking protocols for e.g.), it also contains sound addressed. In that regard I wonder, if we should extend it by Henrik's requests (which would be very welcomed on my side, unless we call it REBOL 3.0 Core Beta release) |
Maxim 7-Oct-2009 [11] | pekr, my devices proposal actually extends a helping hand into thread space, LNS and inter-rebol coms :-) |
Henrik 7-Oct-2009 [12] | Maxim, the reimplementation of VID3.4 needs to be done by Carl. He has some specific specs he wants to use. |
Maxim 7-Oct-2009 [13] | pekr, for now it does seem Carl is talking about core only. |
Henrik 7-Oct-2009 [14] | Anyhow, I agree with other priorities. Mine are far down the list. |
Maxim 7-Oct-2009 [15] | strangely he puts the GUI as part of "community projects". |
Pekr 7-Oct-2009 [16] | Let's keep this group as much chat free as possible. Initially, unless Carl opens the blog (if he does so), I want to point him here :-) |
Sunanda 7-Oct-2009 [17] | Should we make this group [web public]? If only because it makes it easier to point Carl towards specific posts :) |
Pekr 7-Oct-2009 [18] | I am OK with it. In fact I thought it will be web-public ... |
Maxim 7-Oct-2009 [19] | I don't see why not. :-) |
Claude 7-Oct-2009 [20] | My priorities would be related to graphics: 1. VID3.4 re-implementation according to Carl's specs 2. Cyphre's improvements to View, Draw, fonts, etc. 3. VID3.4 skin 2. Cyphre's improvements to View, Draw, fonts, etc. 1. Concurrency (tasking) |
BrianH 7-Oct-2009 [21] | Making it web public will preclude flame wars (in theory). |
Claude 7-Oct-2009 [22] | These are my wishes - oups 1. VID3.4 re-implementation according to Carl's specs 2. Cyphre's improvements to View, Draw, fonts, etc. 3. VID3.4 skin 4. Concurrency (tasking) |
Sunanda 7-Oct-2009 [23] | Thanks.....I'll make it public. |
Pekr 7-Oct-2009 [24] | This group was suggested to Carl on R3 Chat ... |
BrianH 7-Oct-2009 [25] | What I mentioned before were my short-term priorities. My medium-term priorities are: 1. Business stuff, including licensing. 2. Concurrency. |
Pekr 7-Oct-2009 [26x2] | https anyone? |
and/or ODBC? (ODBC can't be done on all platforms probably, so how to aproach it?) | |
BrianH 7-Oct-2009 [28] | I guess you missed it when Maxim and I wrote "Device Extensions". |
Henrik 7-Oct-2009 [29] | Need some more lower level encryption before HTTPS, I think. I think also that it belongs in the same category as SSH, SFTP, etc. |
Pekr 7-Oct-2009 [30] | ODBC as an extension is OK, https (ssl) is not - it should be default part imo, as there is no web without the security and certificates. |
BrianH 7-Oct-2009 [31x3] | Wrapping UnixODBC in an extension would be a good idea, though that likely falls in the category of a third-party or community project. |
SSL could be built-in, but if we can't get it tiny it would be a problem. We should pare it down to what is necessary to establish a secure connection and make the rest external. | |
Opening the host code is definitely a short-term priority, before or during the beta period. | |
Maxim 7-Oct-2009 [34] | I have spoken to Carl about using putty's completely self enclosed and extremely tight, completely up to date SSL code as-is. |
Henrik 7-Oct-2009 [35x2] | we need an in-progress column |
Carl is working on PARSE, but it's not possible to tell from the table. | |
Maxim 7-Oct-2009 [37] | will carl actually update the table? |
Pekr 7-Oct-2009 [38] | we might try the trick - look at the source, maybe the column is done by another column separator marker, no? :-) |
Robert 7-Oct-2009 [39] | 1. Extensions with Callback support: This makes R3 immerdiatly ready for the server-side where no GUI is required. |
sqlab 7-Oct-2009 [40] | 1, Better console for Windows systems 2, host source code 3, device extension generally speaking graphics should be made available via extensions concurrency RIF |
Pekr 7-Oct-2009 [41] | GFX is part of Host layer, and Host layer is going to be internally done using Extensions probably, so your request might be accepted :-) |
sqlab 7-Oct-2009 [42] | But when? |
Pekr 7-Oct-2009 [43] | Dunno. Beta is scheduled for Autumn 2009. I will be glad, if complete Core, Host with all Beta requests implemented, will be out for the Christmass time ... |
Ashley 7-Oct-2009 [44] | 1. View/GOB 2. Win, Mac and Linux 3. SDK |
Oldes 7-Oct-2009 [45] | I share my priorities with Maxim with a hope he will share his know-how with us so we can use it together to make REBOL better.... and of course releasing Host source. |
Rod 7-Oct-2009 [46x2] | 1. Mac and Linux |
2. View/GOB 3. Better console 4. SDK | |
BrianH 7-Oct-2009 [48x2] | Sqlab, a better console for Windows requires the GUI to be built-in, not in extensions. The GUI would be used to make the console. |
However, the low-level graphics portion of the GUI would be in the host portion of R3, which interfaces the core in similar ways. | |
Pekr 8-Oct-2009 [50x2] | BrianH: I am not sure you are right about the console. I think Carl is considering putting R2-like console back. It is obvious from the priority list imo ... |
R3 October plan - http://www.rebol.com/article/0432.html | |
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