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[!REBOL3 Extensions] REBOL 3 Extensions discussions

Andreas
12-Jul-2010
[871]
http://bolka.at/2010/rebol3/CMakeLists.txt.html
Carl
12-Jul-2010
[872]
Looking at above link, I don't think cmake provides much benefit 
to us.
Graham
12-Jul-2010
[873]
( the current version of Os/2 is ecomworkstation  and is positioned 
as a secure enterprise client environemnt )
Andreas
12-Jul-2010
[874x2]
Here's the CMake buildfile I use for the A96 hostkit
CMake provides the benefit that we don't have to reinvent the wheel 
for now. It has, for example, a nice installer for Win32 and can 
automatically generate Visual Studio project files from the above.
AdrianS
12-Jul-2010
[876]
well, if you are considering a makefile generator, at least cmake 
is somewhat of a standard
Carl
12-Jul-2010
[877]
Installer? What does it install?
Andreas
12-Jul-2010
[878x3]
cmake.exe
CMake takes the above as input and generates e.g. a Makefile as output.
Taking specifics of the actual build environment into account.
Carl
12-Jul-2010
[881]
The method I use for R3 simply uses REBOL to generate the host-kit, 
the makefile, and other related files at the same time.
Andreas
12-Jul-2010
[882x2]
With CMake the workflow of a user who wants to build the hostkit 
on Win32 would be as follows:
- Download and install a toolchain (e.g. MingW or MSVC)
- Download and install CMake
- Download the R3 Hostkit

- Generate a R3 build script for your preferred toolchain using CMake. 
E.g. use CMake to generate a GNU make Makefile for MingW
- Build the R3 Hostkit (using the generated build script)
Without CMake, those steps would be the same, except for the extra 
installation of CMake and the generation of a local build script. 
But it would also either limit the user to a single toolchain (such 
as MingW, currently) or you would need to replicate some of the functionality 
of CMake in your make-build.r
AdrianS
12-Jul-2010
[884]
there's a GUI front end for cmake too, though I guess one could be 
made for REBOL just as easily - this lets you resolve env var issues 
and other things
Andreas
12-Jul-2010
[885]
Further, at least for the A96 hostkit, Linux and Win32 hostkits are 
completely separate packages, and that's an incredible nuisance for 
someone doing cross-platform work.
Edgar
12-Jul-2010
[886x2]
It built for me just fine but I had to modify the makefile to use 
cp lib\r3lib.dll .
instead of 
copy lib\r3lib.dll . 
inside a mingw cmd window.
Do we have a test files to run to check if all areas of R3 that is 
implemented is working?
Graham
12-Jul-2010
[888]
It would be good if we had access to the test suites
Edgar
12-Jul-2010
[889]
After adding MinGW\bin and msys\1.0\bin to the windows command path 
and also copying rebol.exe to msys\1.0\bin folder, I was able to 
build it from a normal command window without modifying the makefile.
Andreas
12-Jul-2010
[890]
Carl: in any case, I don't care much about CMake. Just shipping the 
hostkit with your make-build.r instead of a pre-built makefile would 
most likely do just fine for getting an integrated cross-platrform 
build working. (Plus, of course, bundling the libraries and sources 
for all platforms in the hostkit.)
Edgar
12-Jul-2010
[891]
I see go.r can be use as test.
Andreas
12-Jul-2010
[892]
And just in case: _THANKS_ a million for the new hostkit code drop, 
Carl (and everyone else who helped make it happen)!
Graham
12-Jul-2010
[893]
echo that
Maxim
12-Jul-2010
[894]
yes thanks to everyone who worked on making it happen.  :-)
Graham
12-Jul-2010
[895]
we now have a domain ( thanks Andreas ) for the tracker http://jira.rebolsource.net:8080/secure/Dashboard.jspa
Andreas
12-Jul-2010
[896]
and now is probably as good a time as any to move this discussion 
to !REBOL3 Host Kit
NickA
13-Jul-2010
[897]
+1 Thank you!
Pekr
13-Jul-2010
[898]
Apart from Win, OS-X, Linux, BSD, the next most important platform 
is really imo an ARM plus Android.
Graham
13-Jul-2010
[899x2]
Put Arm before BSD
BSD is well serviced by R2
NickA
13-Jul-2010
[901]
I agree - for R3 to gain traction, mobile support should be a priority.
Robert
13-Jul-2010
[902x2]
Jira: Why a new tracker? Isn't CureCode still be used? No information 
fragmentation please.
Priorities: Before getting new platforms up & running I see feature 
completion to be more critical. Otherwise we have a moving target 
that takes to much effort to keep in sync.
Pekr
13-Jul-2010
[904]
I agree about the completness-first  argument ...
Graham
13-Jul-2010
[905]
Robert, if you read above, Carl did not want to make a public release 
unless someone gathered all the comments ... and Andreas & I volunteered.

The curecode tracker does not have a hostkit project ... so I used 
my new Jira tracker.  Simple as that.
BrianH
13-Jul-2010
[906x2]
Most of the host kit problems are R3 problems as well. We have categories 
in R3's Curecode project, and we can add a Host-Kit category if needed 
(I will do so right now). Multiple trackers are not a good idea, 
in general. We'll see if they become a problem in this specific case.
Done.
Andreas
13-Jul-2010
[908x2]
Thanks
Could you add an A100 version as well, please?
BrianH
13-Jul-2010
[910]
Done. As with all new versions added, be careful to set that field 
when you write up a new ticket. But we should be careful with that, 
because in general we haven't had prereleases. We may end up with 
problems reported for a100 that will be fixed in a100 :)
Andreas
13-Jul-2010
[911]
I consider the current hostkit drop to be hostkit version A100. The 
next hostkit to be released should (and hopefully will) be A101 or 
later.
Graham
13-Jul-2010
[912]
Anyone know how to compile in one's own protocols ??
BrianH
13-Jul-2010
[913x2]
The "current hostkit drop" is not a release, it's a prerelease.
This is getting increasingly off topic.
Andreas
13-Jul-2010
[915]
Carl calls it a release, so I consider it a release. And yes, should 
be in R3 Host Kit
Maxim
13-Jul-2010
[916]
I too vote for an  A101 numbering the next time a package is released... 
its going to be MUCH easier to follow for everyone.   IIRC the A97 
created this strange pre-release condition too and it had to be specified 
each time we talked about what we downloaded.
Graham
15-Jul-2010
[917x3]
Robert, did you ever upload your macros stuff that you mentioned 
in Jan?  I looked in the extensions group and didn't see anything
And your sqlite3 extension?
jocko .. your TTS extension still works under A100
Robert
15-Jul-2010
[920]
No, sorry. Need to bundel all this so it can be used. But it's all 
still to much in flux, not fully-done etc.