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Gabriele and Cyphre aren't very social.

I see Gab here most days .. he just doesn't post unless he has something 
to say

Good to see him on camera today.

I had seen pictures of him from devcon past.

I talk to Gab almost every day....and to Richard several times a 
week....Gab is actually very "social", but only in small groups.

As Reichart can tell you, my standards for "social" might be a little 
much...

:)

Failure to correctly recognize causality is the root of most failures 
of perception.

   I am going to translate that in 37 languages and sell T-shirts.

NEWEST WORKING VERSION:

http://rockfactory.us/rooms/room22

This has broadcast area on the left (comfortably fits 640x480), text 
chat on right - with name login (and private text/video/audio chat 
between any audience members), links include a file area, with file 
area, and a separate text/video/audio room for random group discussions. 
  According to today's activities, this should satisfy our needs.

with file area  -> with file upload

Please try it out and lemme know!

Looks much better now ...

Looked good on a quick try out. Goodnight!

Yes, better...neeeds Helv font everywhere.

My FMS server is hosted, so I need to prepare for the event by ensuring 
enough connections, bandwidth, and storage space reserved on the 
server.  I currently have a 40 connection limit, but it's no problem 
to raise that as high as needed - I just need to do it soon.  I'd 
appreciate some help getting a concensus of the number of people 
to expect.  Right now 4 people are signed up at http://rockfactory.us/events/devcon.html
 for December 27th, 3pm EST.  Is that when we've decided to hold 
the event?  We had an additional 10 people signed up for yesterday's 
prep meeting, and 16 people came to visit.  Signing up at http://rockfactory.us/events/devcon.html
 would help me get a better estimate.  I could set up a registration 
process and hand out unique user/pass combinations, but would prefer 
to leave it as open as possible for those interested to just join 
in...  If anyone has ideas about how to estimate a head count, I'd 
appreciate any suggestions.   Thanks!

NickA, I plan on attending.

Thanks Paul :)  Just to be clear, I need to plan on enough connections, 
including for those who are just watching.

Even though this is a virtual DevCon (DevVerCon), we should treat 
it like a full DevCon, with a page for people, like this http://www.colellachiara.com/devcon05/

REBOL DevVerCon 2008 
REBOL DevCon (virtual) 20008
REBOL Devcon 2008 (World wide virtual attendance)

And post all the vidoes to youtube, if possible

NickA, I signed up.

Signed up; but I'll only be lurking.

Not to confuse anyone but Nick has set up a better signup procedure 
at http://rockfactory.us/events/devcon.html. Thanks to Geomol, Reichart 
and Btiffin for putting their names on the checklist. I think we're 
still waiting for a 3.0 Presenter.

John and Brian, I didn't see your names on the list at http://rockfactory.us/events/devcon.html, 
so I took the liberty of adding you, along with others who've specifically 
stated they'd attend.  Aside from the mailing list, are there any 
other lists here on Altme or elsewhere that I should be checking?

The next step should probably be organizing presentation times and 
topics.  I've only seen the names posted on the mailing list (http://www.rebol.org/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlCWZC).

Reichart, I'll be happy to put up a page about devcon 2008, and afterward 
host any recordings that get made.  My design skills are terrible, 
though, so if anyone wants to prepare a nice looking layout, it'll 
surely look better than anything I come up with...

If you're presenting, screenshots and any other files that you want 
to make available can be uploaded to the file area at http://rockfactory.us/rooms/room22/transfer.html
.  I also prepared a temporary ftp account  to help upload multiple 
files - same username and pass.  Please let me know if you have any 
questions!

Sorry if it was answered before,  but does the meeting will be available 
to unregistered user (publicly available) or registration is a requirement 
to see it ?

I even don't know, how I registered myself. Registration is kind 
of confusing. If I would not found ML message (or was it on AltME?) 
about user: devcon, pass: devcon, I would not know, how to "log in". 
But - system seems to recognise me, so maybe it uses cookies to further 
identify particular users?

Is there a tool to demo an app so everyone can see it? (like remote 
desktop or "go to meeting"). 

I understand there will be video and audio and chat, screen grab 
and display. Anything I missed?

Guys, this is why I want to put up a webpage.

I think in the spirit of crowd sources, no one person should be expected 
to do more than one thing.


Nick, don't worry about the webpage, Gab, or someone will host.
Chris, or I, or someone will do the art and design.
etc.  


I plan to pound on this tomorrow in fact.   There are no egos here...who 
ever can help or do the best job, step up.

Once the webpage is up, then we can point everyone to one place, 
and quickly update it until it all makes sense.

very fair offer ...

My request for whom ever hosts the page is that they "think" they 
can keep the page in place for a long time in the future.  My hope 
is to eventually get all these devcon pages over to one place for 
historical reasons.

I will soon have 30Mbit of spare throughput on our site. However, 
I am not ready with my new server yet. Need to buy machine, install 
vmware esxi, install linux. So, in future, yes, not now ...

Coo.

cool.

OK...I knocked out a very quick mock up of a DevCon page that should 
work.  

The logic is, everything on the main page, but if you want the details, 
you can drill in one more level.


https://www.qtask.com/files.cgi/REBOLDevCon.png?actions=get&projectid=198&fileviewid=52216&filename=REBOLDevCon.png
(if you need a membership to Qtask, just post to me your email)

Pekr,  I did post here and the mailing list.  The whole idea of the 
virtual DevCon evolved quickly and informally, so I apologise if 
it's been confusing.   Since the idea was suggested very near the 
proposed DevCon date, I tried to help organize things a bit at http://rockfactory.us/events/devcon.html
, but my efforts have been personal and not necessarily agreed upon 
by any of the community.   We probably should have appointed an official 
group of organizers and created a web site first, but in the interest 
of trying to things done, I just moved ahead and posted my suggestions 
here and on the mailing list - I hope there've been no disagreements 
or concerns about any of that.   DideC,  as it  stands, my intention 
is to make 100-150 connections available to http://rockfactory.us/rooms/room22
.  At this point, it seams reasonable to leave it open - if anyone 
thinks we should expect more than 100 people, then I'll need to know 
soon.   I'd appreciate a head count of people in the French community 
who plan to attend.  Amacleod, the broadcast system at http://rockfactory.us/rooms/room22
seems to be the best available solution.  I'm leaving that room available 
until the event, so that presenters can become familiar with it. 
 To make it easier for others to use the system, please remember 
to close the broadcast page when you're done using it, and please 
try to conserve bandwidth to only what's necessary to become familiar 
and comfortable with the system.  Please let me know if you have 
any questions!

Reichart, I received an error page "I'm sorry, you seem to be attempting 
to access a file to which you do not have permission to access"

NickA:<...are there any other lists here on Altme or elsewhere that 
I should be checking?>

I've posted an announcement on REBOLTalk. If there is any comments 
/ questions there, I'll prod you.
http://www.reboltalk.com/forum/index.php/topic,2728.0.html

Nick, are you a member of Qtask?

And a Member of REBOL SIG?

Amacleod, as it stands, I've taken the screen grab app out of the 
presentation setup.  It was a Windows only solution that seemed to 
add potential complexity.  It appears that the best solution is to 
prepare screen shots beforehand, and upload the images to the file 
area.  Of course, screen shots could also be uploaded to that same 
area in real time...   If any presenter needs help with that part 
of the presentation, or if that solution will not work for anyone, 
please let me know.   I also have a whiteboard app installed at  
http://rockfactory.us/rooms/other/livepresenter/LivePresenter-admin.htm
  http://rockfactory.us/rooms/other/livepresenter/LivePresenter-viewer.htm
 .  I haven't used that application much more than just to try that 
it's installed properly, but I'm happy to add it to the setup if 
anyone wants to use it for the presentation.

It is like asking if you are a member of 0. AltME - 1. REBOL3 - 2. 
GroupName (where 0. Browser 1. Qtask 2. REBOL-SIG)

Sunanda, thanks for the post :)  You'll be at the event, correct?

Reichart, no I'm not yet...

Post a private message to me with your Email, then you have access 
to all sorts of other features too.

Reichart, nice looking page.