World: r3wp
[DevCon2008 (post-chatter)] DevCon2008
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BrianH 17-Dec-2008 [436] | This cost me $350 in a Black Friday sale - any more and I wouldn't have been able to buy it at all. I really like the battery life though - I never have to turn it off, just suspend. This model has much better battery life than the larger alternatives. Plus, I find the limitations helpful for my job, particularly the testing phase. |
Pekr 17-Dec-2008 [437] | Well, if 90% of the community thinks though, that View is not needed or can't compete (with Carl's aproach, I am starting to lose confidence in REBOL altogether), then we should tell Carl, because nearly for one year, he is dedicating mostly to graphics, while the rest would probably prefer Core work being done. |
Graham 17-Dec-2008 [438] | Fixed ... Altme now uses Chrome ... can we put this in the Graham's FAQ ? |
Geomol 17-Dec-2008 [439] | Nice! |
BrianH 17-Dec-2008 [440] | Speak for yourself. I am doing Core work. |
Graham 17-Dec-2008 [441] | I bought a 901 1Gb 20b linux yesterday |
Pekr 17-Dec-2008 [442] | BrianH - no, you are not. |
Graham 17-Dec-2008 [443] | the ssd is a plugin card I believe |
BrianH 17-Dec-2008 [444] | 2 SSDs in the 901, one soldered in, one internal plugin. Plus a SD card slot. |
Graham 17-Dec-2008 [445] | I've already got an Acer aspire one . but my wife has taken it :( |
BrianH 17-Dec-2008 [446] | Pekr, you are right. This week I am mostly working on Qtask work. However, my role in the R3 GUI project has been to do Core work. |
Reichart 17-Dec-2008 [447] | Where is Graham's FAQ? |
Graham 17-Dec-2008 [448] | the 901 has bluetooth and a 4 hour battery so that's a plus |
BrianH 17-Dec-2008 [449] | I have done so this week, even. No GUI work whatsoever. |
Graham 17-Dec-2008 [450] | it was a joke ... |
BrianH 17-Dec-2008 [451] | The 901 has a 4.5 to 8 hour battery, no kidding. |
Reichart 17-Dec-2008 [452x2] | Pekr, shame you view this as one or the other. I hope one day to have one dialect that outputs REBOL view and an AJAX like framework. |
I have a FAQ, it is a Wiki. I'm turning much of it into a set of books...so joke or not, good idea. We need a wiki for everything! | |
Pekr 17-Dec-2008 [454x2] | BrianH: I am so serious about REBOL, that I almost can't bear, how this whole project is treated :-) What you do is cool. YOU are the top guru in our community nowadays, as Ladislav is not here. You mostly patch Core mezzanines, no? I try to urge Carl to get to the point of release, where sources are put into DevBase. I am also not much satisfied with r3-gui world - while top REBOL coders are there, they mostly don't contribute, they rather chat here ;-) |
We must be really in strange situation, when Carl invites someone like me (which I call a mistake :-) to r3-gui, to actually get some real feedback! | |
BrianH 17-Dec-2008 [456x2] | I also test and initiate Core native enhancements, backport changes to R2, refine the language design with Carl, ... |
And I am the DevBase project lead. | |
Pekr 17-Dec-2008 [458] | I hope that Reichart takes what I will say now easy, as it is just my pov, but while Qtask give real work to some of REBOL guys, which is really cool, it might be also the cause why some top guys vanished. How often Cyphre, Gabriele, Anton, are here? Cyphre did not touch View for 8 or more months? Some things are not still finished. It is two sided sword. |
BrianH 17-Dec-2008 [459] | (which I will get back to more next week) |
Pekr 17-Dec-2008 [460] | Brian - I know what you do. What I mean by R3 core work is really a low level work - finish Unicode, finish modules, finish plug-ins, finish tasking, etc., so that projects like Cheyenne (which could turn in kind of killer app for REBOL) can proceed (move to R3). |
BrianH 17-Dec-2008 [461x2] | Cyphre's work on REBOL is paid work, and they tend to accumulate a whole batch of fixes for him to do in one job. |
We are now in the accumulation phase of that, I believe. | |
Pekr 17-Dec-2008 [463] | OK, I give up. I am in waiting mode, studying new GUI, in order to be able to catch few bugs for Carl. I reall wish host codes would be uploaded, so those of us interested, could start porting efforts to Os-X, Linux, Win Mobile ... and plug-in :-) |
Reichart 17-Dec-2008 [464] | Anton does not work for Qtask. |
Pekr 17-Dec-2008 [465] | I thought he is. So my apologies to Reichart. |
Reichart 17-Dec-2008 [466x2] | Richard not working on REBOL has NOTHING to do with Qtask. |
Gab not working on REBOL has NOTHING to do with Qtask (but they can speak up for themselves.) | |
BrianH 17-Dec-2008 [468] | You can't expect everything to be done at once. Right now we are focusing on what needs to be done for a developer release. The rest can be put off until after that release. It's triage. |
Reichart 17-Dec-2008 [469] | Pekr, I know you keep pounding on this, but you a really wrong here... Brian knows my stance on REBOL, and can attest to this. |
BrianH 17-Dec-2008 [470] | In person :) |
Pekr 17-Dec-2008 [471] | Qtask is their primary work, no? I am not accusing Qtask of anything, just that it is a primary job, which keeps guys busy. It is not only about REBOL, but those guys vanished from public REBOL life almost altogether. Can't remember Cyphre's post here, or to ML, Gabriele is here sporadically too. |
Reichart 17-Dec-2008 [472] | Failure to correctly recognize causality is the root of most failures of perception. |
BrianH 17-Dec-2008 [473] | Gabriele and Cyphre aren't very social. |
Graham 17-Dec-2008 [474] | I see Gab here most days .. he just doesn't post unless he has something to say |
[unknown: 5] 17-Dec-2008 [475x2] | Good to see him on camera today. |
I had seen pictures of him from devcon past. | |
Reichart 17-Dec-2008 [477] | I talk to Gab almost every day....and to Richard several times a week....Gab is actually very "social", but only in small groups. |
BrianH 17-Dec-2008 [478] | As Reichart can tell you, my standards for "social" might be a little much... |
Reichart 17-Dec-2008 [479] | :) |
Maarten 18-Dec-2008 [480] | Failure to correctly recognize causality is the root of most failures of perception. I am going to translate that in 37 languages and sell T-shirts. |
NickA 18-Dec-2008 [481x5] | NEWEST WORKING VERSION: |
http://rockfactory.us/rooms/room22 | |
This has broadcast area on the left (comfortably fits 640x480), text chat on right - with name login (and private text/video/audio chat between any audience members), links include a file area, with file area, and a separate text/video/audio room for random group discussions. According to today's activities, this should satisfy our needs. | |
with file area -> with file upload | |
Please try it out and lemme know! | |
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