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[!REBOL2 Releases] Discuss 2.x releases

BrianH
29-Apr-2010
[1619]
We switch between R2 and R3 work. The last week has been focused 
on R3. A week-or-so ago I made a few tweaks to R2/Forward for 2.7.8, 
including a backported fix from R3, and Carl put together a plan 
and implemented a lot of his portion of the plan. I expect that soon 
after the R3 a98 release, we'll have a R2 2.7.8 release. And 2.7.8 
looks like it will be the first really stable release in the whole 
2.7.x series, something to really look forward to.
GiuseppeC
1-May-2010
[1620]
Hello, I am having a small problem about CALL:
call  reduce ["C:\Windows\hh.exe" "C:/mybook.chm"] doesn't work
call/show  reduce ["C:\Windows\hh.exe" "C:/mybook.chm"] works !
Which is the difference ?
Graham
1-May-2010
[1621x2]
you don't need 'reduce
call/show rejoin  ["C:\Windows\hh.exe            " "C:/mybook.chm"] 

there's a bug with 'call
GiuseppeC
1-May-2010
[1623]
Sorry, I hava modified the command. Originally I needed reduce.
Graham
1-May-2010
[1624]
well, rejoin does a reduce
GiuseppeC
1-May-2010
[1625]
The problem is different:
call/show opens the guide

call only run the task but does not open the guide. You can find 
the task in Task Manager
Graham
1-May-2010
[1626x2]
I think in 2.6  the behaviour of 'call changed ...
it should be fixed
GiuseppeC
1-May-2010
[1628]
hh.exe open a .CHM guide
Graham
1-May-2010
[1629]
http://www.rebol.com/article/0467.html
GiuseppeC
1-May-2010
[1630]
Read. It didn't open the child window... ok... back to work...
GiuseppeC
2-May-2010
[1631]
What's wrong here ?

rebol [
]

write %tryme.pdf
dirlist: read %//

foreach myfile dirlist [
	if find myfile ".pdf" [
		print ["Filename" myfile]
		extension: find/last/tail myfile "."
		print ["EXT" extension]
		print extension = "pdf"
	]
]
delete %tryme.pdf
halt


The comparison extension = pdf should return TRUE, instead I have 
FALSE
Graham
2-May-2010
[1632x2]
try 

suffix? myfile
%.pdf = suffix? myfile
GiuseppeC
2-May-2010
[1634]
I have found the function but I wish to know why te comparison fails
Graham
2-May-2010
[1635x2]
because myfile is of type file!, and so extension is also file!
try

print extension = %.pdf
GiuseppeC
2-May-2010
[1637]
Ok, understood. The fact I am able to start a "find" on it let me 
think it is a string...
Graham
2-May-2010
[1638]
This belongs in rebol school group
GiuseppeC
2-May-2010
[1639]
O:-)
Graham
2-May-2010
[1640]
BrianH wants to keep this group to discuss 2.7.8
GiuseppeC
2-May-2010
[1641]
I'll move there :-)
Gregg
3-May-2010
[1642]
Back on pair comparisons, MIN and MAX don't return one of the given 
pair values (not sure if someone else mentioned that).

>> max 10x11 9x12
== 10x12
Maxim
3-May-2010
[1643]
? 
max 10 9  = 10
max 11 12 = 12

you get the area which encloses both
BrianH
3-May-2010
[1644]
And back in the Core group - we're trying to keep this group on its 
topic of R2 releases. We don't want to lose such discussions in the 
middle of discussions of semantics. The only reason this group was 
created is because some of the people working on the development 
of R2 don't want to use chat yet. This group is *only* a replacement 
for the R2-Beta world.
Maxim
3-May-2010
[1645x2]
using MIN on offsets and MAX on size you get the enclosing box


when you use MAX on offsets and MIN on size you get the intersection 
of both boxes
I think Gregg was posting this as a bug.
BrianH
3-May-2010
[1647x2]
This is not the R2 equivalent of the !REBOL3 group. Please don't 
abuse the fact that we can't move messages in AltME :(
I'm sorry, I don't want to be a jerk about this. This group is used 
as a reference when we do new R2 releases. It's of less value as 
a reference if off-topic stuff is overwhelming the release discussions. 
Please be nice to the R2 release manager :(
Maxim
3-May-2010
[1649]
sorry to add junk, but I *really* think this group should be renamed 
(this is On Topic :-)  

probably !REBOL2-release or something like that.


its too easy to mistake right now with !REBOL3 being such an active 
group.
BrianH
3-May-2010
[1650]
Requested.
Gregg
3-May-2010
[1651]
Done.
BrianH
3-May-2010
[1652]
Thanks :)
Graham
14-May-2010
[1653x2]
If I want to set something to the index of a series, or something 
else if it's not there I have to do this

b: either a: find series var [
	index? a
][ 	default ]

when I'd rather do

 b: any [ index? find series var default ]

So how about letting index? also take none as an argument ?
b: any [ attempt [ index? find series var ] default ]
Ladislav
14-May-2010
[1655x2]
funny thing is, that the former code is exactly as long as the latter 
one, does not need the additional variable, and it is faster
...and I find it more readable
Steeve
14-May-2010
[1657x2]
yep, no need for additional var.

all [b: find series var b: index? b]
oups, not what you'he done
Ladislav
14-May-2010
[1659]
indeed, I just meant:

b: either b: find series var [index? b] [default]
Anton
14-May-2010
[1660]
I'm pretty sure I'd be ok with  NONE == INDEX? NONE
BrianH
14-May-2010
[1661]
That kind of change is not going into R2 - it's not backwards-compatible. 
Try R3.
Gregg
14-May-2010
[1662]
But it's easy enough to create a safe INDEX? function. I think Gabriele 
calls his INDEX?? and I borrowed it from him.
Graham
14-May-2010
[1663x4]
that's another issue .. how to easily redefine words
that also invoke the original word ....
index?: func [  [ series! | none! ]
][
	either series [ index? series ][
		none
	]
]

would likely cause a stqack overflow
[ series! none! ]
Gabriele
15-May-2010
[1667]
Gregg, I don't remember that, so maybe it was from someone else.
BrianH
15-May-2010
[1668]
Gregg, the problem is that the changed INDEX? would have the possibility 
of returning data that is not an integer. Most R2 code doesn't screen 
for that, so changing INDEX? in this way would lead to data corruption 
in existing code. Remember, compatibility with existing code is the 
highest priority in the further development of R2. Incompatible changes 
are reserved for R3 *only* - we try to not make them in R2, on principle.