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[!REBOL2 Releases] Discuss 2.x releases
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sqlab 7-Apr-2010 [1334] | If your app runs under linux, you can use the telnet scheme to command the app. |
TomBon 9-Apr-2010 [1335] | thx sqlab |
Carl 9-Apr-2010 [1336] | On 64 bit: really? Why? |
Graham 9-Apr-2010 [1337x2] | Because Windows 2008 server is a 64 bit platform and I can't read the registry anymore |
32bit applications can not read the 64 bit registry | |
Carl 9-Apr-2010 [1339] | Huh? |
Graham 9-Apr-2010 [1340x2] | So, I can't even connect to ODBC DNS on windows 2008 |
DSN | |
Carl 9-Apr-2010 [1342] | I'm not familiar with changes MS has made to make the OS 64 bit. Does this change apply to all API functions? |
Graham 9-Apr-2010 [1343x2] | Don't know .. just know if affects the windows registry |
Brian will know the details | |
Carl 9-Apr-2010 [1345] | I can understand changing various data-related APIs to allow 64 bits, but in general, 64 bit systems are just marketing ploys. |
Graham 9-Apr-2010 [1346] | I think it's part of the virtualization stuff that 2008 does to make the 32 bit app think it is running under a 32bit os. |
Carl 9-Apr-2010 [1347x3] | (BTW, I get to say this because the first 64 CPU OS architecture I helped design was in 1981 at HP.) |
1 min... let me google it. | |
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms724072(VS.85).aspx | |
Graham 9-Apr-2010 [1350] | So you have a fix? |
Carl 9-Apr-2010 [1351] | Looks like just a flag change. In theory, easy. In practice, someone will need to test it. |
Graham 9-Apr-2010 [1352] | I setup a Windows 2008 server on Amazon. Setup Firebird 64 bit and a DSN. Then tried to connect using ODBC. Failed. |
Carl 9-Apr-2010 [1353] | Where did it fail? In connect? What was the error msg? |
Graham 9-Apr-2010 [1354x4] | Can't find the dsn entry |
So, I'm assuming that it can't read the registry | |
Also, my client app under W64 (7/vista) can not read the registry either ...to see if certain 64 bit apps are installed ( Ghostscript etc ) | |
So, any possibility of a 64 bit release of R2? | |
Carl 9-Apr-2010 [1358] | I'm not yet to the point of agreeing that this is a registry problem. |
Graham 9-Apr-2010 [1359x3] | Someone was complaining that checksum ports don't work for > 2Gb files |
Easy enough to check if you have a 64 bit windows available | |
Seems to me that 64 bit windows is now standard for many manufacturers like HP | |
Carl 9-Apr-2010 [1362] | So, you see an error "ODBC error: ***" correct? What's the **** part? |
Graham 9-Apr-2010 [1363] | I'll have to reboot the Ec2 instance to check it |
Carl 9-Apr-2010 [1364x3] | The effort to make R2 work properly in 64bit >> releasing R3 and adding things like native ODBC to the open host code. |
Essentially, R2 is supported and gets some fixes, but not a rewrite. | |
Or, should I say, the rewrite is R3. | |
Graham 9-Apr-2010 [1367] | Do you have access to any Windows 64 bit PCs? |
Carl 9-Apr-2010 [1368x2] | There's a pile of boxes here, one being Win64 but has not been booted in five years, min. |
Can you create an account for me on your amazon sys? | |
Graham 9-Apr-2010 [1370x3] | I am going to try and start it ... |
going to take 15 mins to generate the password for me | |
I didn't write it down since I didn't think I was going to use it again | |
Carl 9-Apr-2010 [1373x6] | ah. |
Still, 15 mins seems like a long time. | |
An invalid pass crack should take ever-increasing authentication times... so a 15 min password gen time seems silly. | |
Does your app run in R3? If not, could it? | |
The ODBC port interface is only about 2 pages of C, so could probably be moved to R3 "easily enough" at the open host level. | |
Then, there's also the dialect part. | |
Graham 9-Apr-2010 [1379x2] | no good .. I've lost the password so can't access it anymore. And it won't generate a new password for me. |
It was just an experiment anyway. | |
Carl 9-Apr-2010 [1381x2] | Well, IMHO, I'd rather spend the time getting DB access generally working from R3. |
Especially since I'd only need to write 10% of it. (I've been told I should delegate.) | |
Graham 9-Apr-2010 [1383] | Well, my app uses odbc so without it, it won't run. |
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