World: r3wp

Does anyone have a second opinion on my last comment here? http://www.rebol.com/cgi-bin/blog.r?view=0466#comments

We're trying to decide what should go into /Base 2.7.8, at least 
as it relates to the R2/Forward functions.

I think the reflection functions are particularly good to have, and 
most of the others as well. The three I'll vote against are !, ++, 
and -- (still campaigning :-).

... I am trying to vote to finally really finish R3 and release a 
beta .... the wait is terrible .... ;-)

Ok...I try to vote to...where do we do this voting?  :)

Carl's cell phone? ;-)

Gregg, I would be OK with using NOT, INC and DEC instead, and said 
so in the original blog discussion where ++ and -- were proposed 
(but was outvoted).

yeaaaahh, I like much more INC and DEC.
Really Z80ish

I was thinking Pascal, but REBOL does appeal more to the assembler 
fan (Ratio notwithstanding) :)

We also have ADD but not SUB (SUBTRACT)

Add is a complete verb :)  That is why INC and DEC weren't chosen 
at first: REBOL naming standards for built-in functions abhor acronyms 
(ironic) and abbreviations, for the most part (FUNC and FUNCT are 
exceptions). That's why we break out the thesaurus when we want to 
come up with a shorter name, most of the time.

Still, I would appreciate abbreviations to ++ and --, which look 
like ops but aren't.

appreciate -> prefer

(Looks like your campaign has some legs, Gregg. Take it to CureCode!)

Carl, how possible is it to get UNBIND ported to R2 as a native for 
2.7.8? It's the only thing missing from R2/Forward so far.

And I really need it for the next bit.

UNBIND... should be easy to add.

Yeah. I can pie-in-the-sky and ask for ASSERT, APPLY and RESOLVE 
as well, but I've managed to clone those so they're not as pressing.

Yes, some of those are more difficult.

Perhaps only RESOLVE would be tough.

Since there are mezzanines for them already, it's not a problem (though 
the ASSERT mezzanine still sucks). Same with MAP-EACH.

Updated http://www.rebol.com/docs/changes-2-7.html

btw, about RESOLVE.

I would like something like RESOLVE/SWAP where the values of the 
2 context/objects are exchanged instead of being mapped in one direction 
only

The real user-visible improvement would come from adding the set-word 
feature to FOREACH. And maybe REMOVE-EACH, but that isn't as big 
a user win.

Steeve... that's an interesting request.... what's it used for?

it's used for commit/rollback objects in my GUI

it's used for commit/rollback objects in my GUI

You could do that with a temp object and RESOLVE as is, if need be.

You have a GUI?

Carl, we've been seeing this dup thing happening sometimes lately. 
Ladislav gets them too.

They have different timestamps.

Updated the doc again, adding above. Hit F5.

You might want to add the rest of the R2/Forward additions to the 
list for 2.7.8 too, with checkmarks.

i clicked twice because it was not responding (grey tint), sorry

2.7.8 additions from R2/Forward: RESOLVE, CD, MORE, LS, PWD, RM, 
MKDIR, SINGLE?, COLLECT-WORDS, INVALID-UTF?, and some compatibility 
fixes to ASCII? and LATIN1?.

Those can be added to the list.

adding...

Though they don't need an entry each. One for the additions, one 
for the fixes.

The 2.7.7 R2/Forward stuff is here: http://www.rebol.com/cgi-bin/blog.r?view=0447#comments

updated above, but left off mkdir... isn't make-dir close enough?

It's just for compatibility with R3. It doesn't really need to be 
there either.

ahh... did it sneak into R3?

Yeah. You added it.

my fault. ;)

And doesn't help me at all, because my DOS background makes me type 
MD instead :(

ok, I've got to go find some food... but will return in a while to 
do a trial build with most of this done.


BTW, still missing the fixes Graham made to HTTP. He mentioned it 
the other day.

I'll remove MKDIR from the mezzanine source in DevBase.

(I thought I added his fixes a few years ago... but perhaps they 
were removed due to a problem, not sure.)

You should really go over the updates there soon. There are fixes 
to R2 and R3.

what?