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[!REBOL2 Releases] Discuss 2.x releases
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BrianH 23-Jan-2010 [1058] | R3 2.100.81 was the first release of the module revamp, so backporting the module system is the next step for R2/Forward. At least as much as we can fake, of course. RR2/Forward is still missing an implementation of UNBIND though, and it looks like the module system might need it. Wish me luck, or chip in! |
BrianH 24-Jan-2010 [1059] | So move the discussion here. |
Henrik 24-Jan-2010 [1060] | Delete the old group. |
Graham 24-Jan-2010 [1061x2] | a pretty print function and now I have to deal with strings when operating on the data instead of numbers |
which is crazy | |
Henrik 24-Jan-2010 [1063] | ah, so you think that the sorting won't work? |
Graham 24-Jan-2010 [1064] | So, is R3 using a different maths library from R2 ? |
BrianH 24-Jan-2010 [1065] | Yes, sort of. Integers and money were changed, percent added. |
Graham 24-Jan-2010 [1066] | well, how about fixing decimals too |
BrianH 24-Jan-2010 [1067] | Decimals use IEEE 754 doubles. |
Henrik 24-Jan-2010 [1068] | The point would be, were tables done correctly in RebGUI, that the pretty print formatting would come at cell rendering time rather than as input to the table. In the work I've been doing, Cyphre changed table for me so that it would allow sorting on strings that contain numbers. |
Graham 24-Jan-2010 [1069x2] | ?? what table? |
There's no table in VID | |
Henrik 24-Jan-2010 [1071] | I'm talking about RebGUI, not VID. |
Graham 24-Jan-2010 [1072x2] | Henrik .. you surprise me .. you've always said you don't use rebgui ! |
Anyway, R2 and R3 display decimals to a different level of precision before sci notation kicks in .... | |
BrianH 24-Jan-2010 [1074] | Those are display functions - math is unaffected by display. |
Henrik 24-Jan-2010 [1075] | The app I'm building now requires RebGUI and so I get to know it a little bit. |
Graham 24-Jan-2010 [1076] | so either way, 2.7.8 should fix it |
Henrik 24-Jan-2010 [1077] | BrianH, interesting, so maybe it can be solved at a lower level? Or maybe it shouldn't. |
Graham 24-Jan-2010 [1078] | There's only 6 days left for the 2.7.8 release |
Henrik 24-Jan-2010 [1079] | BrianH, where did this month-based time table come from? Don't take it personally, but I wouldn't trust it, if you don't have enough control over it. :-) |
BrianH 24-Jan-2010 [1080] | I am in the "make a formatting function" camp, but it doesn't matter for math or numeric sorting. |
Graham 24-Jan-2010 [1081] | I'm in the "make it sensible" camp |
BrianH 24-Jan-2010 [1082] | The month-based timetable was announced by Carl with the initial announcement of the coming of 2.7.7. |
Graham 24-Jan-2010 [1083] | And this is now the "second coming" |
Henrik 24-Jan-2010 [1084] | I'm in the "make it flexible" camp. BrianH, does the new FORM-DECIMAL look useful for inclusion in 2.7.8? We may need to add different separator notation. |
Graham 24-Jan-2010 [1085] | I'm still in the "make is sane" camp |
Henrik 24-Jan-2010 [1086] | Month-based time table: I don't believe it for a second. :-) 2.7.8 sounds 6 months away to me. |
Graham 24-Jan-2010 [1087] | Henrik ... Carl said it so it must be happening... |
BrianH 24-Jan-2010 [1088] | However, he hasn't worked on R2 publicly yet this year, so I don't know. We have enough changes accumulated so far to make a release worth doing, even if priorities have shifted relative to the 2.7.8 release plans. |
Graham 24-Jan-2010 [1089x2] | The installer needs to remove prior Rebo2 registry changes |
the prot-http changes I submitted ... | |
BrianH 24-Jan-2010 [1091] | Right now the installer is using those changes - we haven't fixed the registry usage of the installer yet. |
Graham 24-Jan-2010 [1092x2] | Since it seems no one is going to review the prot-http changes .. I think we should just include them |
and let the wider community report any issues | |
BrianH 24-Jan-2010 [1094] | Graham, that is presumptuous. I was going to review them this week. I just wasn't working on R2 for the first cople weeks this month. |
Graham 24-Jan-2010 [1095] | Brian, you said that Gabriele or Nenad should review them ... and that's what I was referring to ... |
BrianH 24-Jan-2010 [1096] | Well, when noone does something that needs doing, I generally do it. |
Graham 24-Jan-2010 [1097] | Pity we can't include Romano's async protocol too .. and then we could start moving some of the R3 schemes back to R2 |
BrianH 24-Jan-2010 [1098x2] | We can adapt the async tricks from Uniserve if we want to backport R3 schemes. R3's scheme model isn't set yet though (it's port model is), which is why I haven't backported the scheme-making dialect if possible. |
As for the installer, I'm waiting for Carl to come out of his cave and submit his installer mezzanine fixes from 2.7.7 so we can get started on fixing it. | |
Robert 24-Jan-2010 [1100] | And please get rid of the auto-public-directory-creation. |
BrianH 24-Jan-2010 [1101] | The sandboxing functions (*-THRU) require it. The public directory should only be created in the View user directory, %appdata%\REBOL by default. |
Graham 24-Jan-2010 [1102] | shouldn't it only be created when *-thru is used? |
BrianH 24-Jan-2010 [1103x2] | *-thru is used at startup. |
>> help "thru" Found these words: do-thru function! Do a net file from the disk cache. exists-thru? function! Checks if a file is in the disk cache. Returns: no... launch-thru function! Launch a net file from the disk cache. load-thru function! Load a net file from the disk cache. path-thru function! Return a path relative to the disk cache. read-thru function! Read a net file from thru the disk cache. Returns ... | |
Graham 24-Jan-2010 [1105x2] | Doesn't bode well for read only media |
Or an os where you don't have write permissions | |
BrianH 24-Jan-2010 [1107] | You can include settings on read-only media, even start with -i if necessary. It's made to be adjustable. |
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