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[!REBOL2 Releases] Discuss 2.x releases

Will
17-Jan-2010
[1044]
been looking for 2.7.7 changes, maybe a link to this blog http://www.rebol.com/cgi-bin/blog.r?view=0447
sholuld be put on this page http://www.rebol.com/docs/v2-7.html
Graham
17-Jan-2010
[1045]
No new SDK.
Dockimbel
17-Jan-2010
[1046]
Without SDK, I can't upgrade, most of my apps are used in encapped 
form.
Maxim
17-Jan-2010
[1047]
and an working intel OSX SDK would be nice... the previous intel 
OSX builds where 100% useless when used with View.
btiffin
20-Jan-2010
[1048]
2.7.7 kakks on an Atom chip single board computer running an embedded 
Ubuntu.   From desktop -> REBOL Demos

Seg Fault.   Should I care? (meaning, is Atom even on the expected 
to worky thingy)  I doubt the company will let me use any /View technology, 
but it would be nice to have for personal one-offs.   Some of it 
works, most of i

t kakks.   Always just the Get Smart  "missed it ... by that much" 
  :)
Graham
20-Jan-2010
[1049]
And 2.7.6 ?
amacleod
20-Jan-2010
[1050x2]
what's "kakks" exactly?
I thought atom was x86 compatible?
How about XP on Atom..anyone tried it?
BrianH
20-Jan-2010
[1052x2]
Works great, with all Windows REBOL versions. It's one of my test 
platforms.
Most "kakks" on Linux are distribution-specific, not processor-specific. 
Could you be more specific?
Gregg
21-Jan-2010
[1054]
I've run REBOL on Windows with a number of SBCs with no issue.
BrianH
23-Jan-2010
[1055x4]
R2/Forward updated to 2.100.80 (mostly) compatibility. That was the 
last release of R3 that focused on adding functions. Since then we 
have been doing bug fixes, revamps (of modules and PARSE), extensions, 
host code, and cleaning up datatype behavior. These updates will 
make it into 2.7.8.
Adding or changing functions, mind you. 2.100.80 only affected TAKE, 
as far as R2 is concerned, and in a way that was already there.
Yes, this means that we have fully working SINGLE?, COLLECT-WORDS, 
INVALID-UTF? and RESOLVE. Even R3 doesn't have a fully working INVALID-UTF? 
yet; since R2/Forward is mezzanine we can fix bugs that are still 
pending in the R3 natives.
R3 2.100.81 was the first release of the module revamp, so backporting 
the module system is the next step for R2/Forward. At least as much 
as we can fake, of course. RR2/Forward is still missing an implementation 
of UNBIND though, and it looks like the module system might need 
it. Wish me luck, or chip in!
BrianH
24-Jan-2010
[1059]
So move the discussion here.
Henrik
24-Jan-2010
[1060]
Delete the old group.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[1061x2]
a pretty print function and now I have to deal with strings when 
operating on the data instead of numbers
which is crazy
Henrik
24-Jan-2010
[1063]
ah, so you think that the sorting won't work?
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[1064]
So, is R3 using a different maths library from R2 ?
BrianH
24-Jan-2010
[1065]
Yes, sort of. Integers and money were changed, percent added.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[1066]
well, how about fixing decimals too
BrianH
24-Jan-2010
[1067]
Decimals use IEEE 754 doubles.
Henrik
24-Jan-2010
[1068]
The point would be, were tables done correctly in RebGUI, that the 
pretty print formatting would come at cell rendering time rather 
than as input to the table. In the work I've been doing, Cyphre changed 
table for me so that it would allow sorting on strings that contain 
numbers.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[1069x2]
?? what table?
There's no table in VID
Henrik
24-Jan-2010
[1071]
I'm talking about RebGUI, not VID.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[1072x2]
Henrik .. you surprise me .. you've always said you don't use rebgui 
!
Anyway, R2 and R3 display decimals to a different level of precision 
before sci notation kicks in ....
BrianH
24-Jan-2010
[1074]
Those are display functions - math is unaffected by display.
Henrik
24-Jan-2010
[1075]
The app I'm building now requires RebGUI and so I get to know it 
a little bit.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[1076]
so either way, 2.7.8 should fix it
Henrik
24-Jan-2010
[1077]
BrianH, interesting, so maybe it can be solved at a lower level? 
Or maybe it shouldn't.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[1078]
There's only 6 days left for the 2.7.8 release
Henrik
24-Jan-2010
[1079]
BrianH, where did this month-based time table come from? Don't take 
it personally, but I wouldn't trust it, if you don't have enough 
control over it. :-)
BrianH
24-Jan-2010
[1080]
I am in the "make a formatting function" camp, but it doesn't matter 
for math or numeric sorting.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[1081]
I'm in the "make it sensible" camp
BrianH
24-Jan-2010
[1082]
The month-based timetable was announced by Carl with the initial 
announcement of the coming of 2.7.7.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[1083]
And this is now the "second coming"
Henrik
24-Jan-2010
[1084]
I'm in the "make it flexible" camp. BrianH, does the new FORM-DECIMAL 
look useful for inclusion in 2.7.8? We may need to add different 
separator notation.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[1085]
I'm still in the "make is sane" camp
Henrik
24-Jan-2010
[1086]
Month-based time table: I don't believe it for a second. :-) 2.7.8 
sounds 6 months away to me.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[1087]
Henrik ... Carl said it so it must be happening...
BrianH
24-Jan-2010
[1088]
However, he hasn't worked on R2 publicly yet this year, so I don't 
know. We have enough changes accumulated so far to make a release 
worth doing, even if priorities have shifted relative to the 2.7.8 
release plans.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[1089x2]
The installer needs to remove prior Rebo2 registry changes
the prot-http changes I submitted ...
BrianH
24-Jan-2010
[1091]
Right now the installer is using those changes - we haven't fixed 
the registry usage of the installer yet.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[1092x2]
Since it seems no one is going to review the prot-http changes .. 
I think we should just include them
and let the wider community report any issues