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[DevCon2007] DevCon 2007

Anton
11-May-2007
[1479]
Quilt user interface layout spec examples ?
Terry
11-May-2007
[1480]
In other words, is the desktop dead?
Anton
11-May-2007
[1481]
I certainly haven't lost sight of the desktop. I think the way forward 
is to improve the viewtop and then get it into the web plugin.
Robert
11-May-2007
[1482]
Reichart looks so flat from the side...
Anton
11-May-2007
[1483]
that's alright, we can just "enhance the image" a few times.
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1484]
viewtop is still a great concept..dont kill it..
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1485]
Reichart..... do you want me to explain Anton how Quilt works?
Anton
11-May-2007
[1486]
I just want to see some code snippets.
Will
11-May-2007
[1487]
yea me too please
Pekr
11-May-2007
[1488]
what are we talking about? Surely Quilt does not replace View, no?
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1489x2]
ok... so basically.... you have cards which are like windows, and 
molecules which are like widgets
cards are generated by a "generator" which is a function that outputs 
html and a few small other things
Terry
11-May-2007
[1491]
Vive le Manifestaions
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1492x3]
it can call other functions that return the html for the molecules
this goes to the client side... which also loads your JS file with 
the classes for your card and molecules
and then drives the ui on the client side
Terry
11-May-2007
[1495]
In my opinion, Rebol should FOCUS on the backend.. aka Cheynne.. 
data storage etc.
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1496]
then the ui just calls back the server via qtask api (blowdart)
Anton
11-May-2007
[1497]
ok, yes, I've heard this explanation before. What are the widgets 
called etc. ?
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1498]
generate-content: func [
        is-card content-generator cardid
        dimensions js-files dialog-arr args
        /local
        l_width l_height l_id l_src js-classname
    ] [
        l_src: none
        if not is-card [l_id: cardid]
        switch content-generator [
            "file.fileshare" [
                obj: make quilt/ret-obj [
                    src: build-fileshare
                    title: "Your files"
                    short-title: "Files"
                ]

                quilt/add-dialog dialog-arr "fileupload" "FileShareUpload" rejoi
n [
                    "<p>Please select a file to upload:</p>"
                    quilt/basic-molecule/class/id {

            <iframe src="about:blank" style="border: none; height: 60px; width: 
250px;">IFRAME not displayed!</iframe>

            <p style="display: none;">Uploading file... <img src="/images/Qtask-
Bar-64.gif" /></p>
Pekr
11-May-2007
[1499]
So what is Quilt in general? Sorry, was not here for the most of 
the presentation. Is that just Qtask infrastructure "front-end" for 
browser client?
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1500x2]
i'll save you most of the rest of the html there...
either is-card [
                    insert tail js-files "card/FileShare.js"

                    set [l_id l_src] framework/basic-card/floating/originX/origi
nY/width/height/title/short-title/class

                    obj/src cardid content-generator dimensions/1 dimensions/2

                    any [dimensions/3 "640px"] any [dimensions/4 "500px"]
                    obj/title obj/short-title "FileShare"
                ] [

                    l_src: quilt/contextualize obj/src "FileShare" cardid
                ]
            ]
        ]
        reduce [l_id js-classname l_src]
    ]
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1502]
where can we re-read Quilt information on the web?
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1503]
(not afaik, but Reichart will answer you)
Terry
11-May-2007
[1504]
Q. Given the mashup philosophy, what, if any community support is 
there for javascript dialect, CSS dialect etc?
Anton
11-May-2007
[1505]
thx Gabriele
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1506]
Q: wondering where is the money in the Quilt concept? Is it in your 
own applications or in the framework rights? (i missed the start 
of you speach..sorry)
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1507]
afaik quilt is just the ui "framework" for qtask.
Anton
11-May-2007
[1508]
Great question !
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1509]
;-)
Terry
11-May-2007
[1510]
I meant within the Rebol community.. can we work together to build 
browser based dialects, support?
Anton
11-May-2007
[1511]
World of Warcraft has its own currency. Are you planning your own 
trading system within Qtask ?
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1512]
intresting reichart..thanks..
Anton
11-May-2007
[1513]
.. and Second Life.
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1514]
(btw guys, please keep in mind our time is limited ;)
Pekr
11-May-2007
[1515x2]
but it reminded me of your doc, where you suggested to separate app 
logic and UI representation. I can imagine having rebol framework 
back-end, featuring various engines - callendaring, task management, 
general workflow engine etc., and API for user interface. And the 
client? - would be translated into web browser interface or represented 
by Rebol View UI. Possible? :-)
your doc equals Gabriele's proposition on next gen Rebol's UI concept 
...
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[1517]
petr, possible, but quilt does not do that, there is no dialect.
Pekr
11-May-2007
[1518]
I think it will be better to continue here on altme ....
Maxim
11-May-2007
[1519x2]
shut up!
;-)
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1521]
haha
Pekr
11-May-2007
[1522]
What I miss so far is - more strategic view. We know little of R3, 
well, we know some bits, but still no bigger picture - integration 
strategies, what happens to View, what is the idea behind View, IOS, 
altME integration?
Maxim
11-May-2007
[1523]
cindy asks if you can talk any faster?
Dockimbel
11-May-2007
[1524]
Reichart, please think of concluding now. We are out of schedule 
by far !! (DideC speaking)
Maxim
11-May-2007
[1525]
like 2 hours off...
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[1526]
very nice reichart..thanks ! hope to read more about Quilt/qtask 
details soon...
Anton
11-May-2007
[1527]
Thankyou Reichart.
Maxim
11-May-2007
[1528]
thanks a lot :-)