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[!Cheyenne] Discussions about the Cheyenne Web Server

Dockimbel
20-Apr-2011
[9971]
No 404 here:
>> p: open/no-wait/direct tcp://localhost:80
>> insert p "DELETE /show.rsp HTTP/1.0^/^/"
>> probe copy p
{HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: Cheyenne/0.9.20
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:06:16 GMT
Content-Length: 520
Content-Type: text/html
Connection: close
Cache-Control: no-cache, no-store, max-age=0, must-revalidate
Pragma: no-cache
Expires: -1

<HTML>
<HEAD>
^-<TITLE>RSP Test Page</TITLE>
</HEAD>
...
onetom
20-Apr-2011
[9972x2]
ok, let me dig deeper then. meanwhile since u r planning a new release, 
can u "enable" the DELETE method too?
the changelog can say: preliminary, dumb, DELETE method "support"
it's still better than nothing
pleeeease :)
Dockimbel
20-Apr-2011
[9974]
I think that the config option is a better way to handle it. I prefer 
returning a 405 error code to online web scanners for the 99% of 
Cheyenne servers that don't need DELETE.
onetom
20-Apr-2011
[9975x2]
onetom ~/rebol/delete $ cat httpd.cfg 
modules [ internal extapp static rsp alias ]
globals [ listen [8888]    bind RSP to [ .r ] ]
default [ debug root-dir %./ alias "/test" %test.r ]

onetom ~/rebol/delete $ cat test.r 
<% print request %>


onetom ~/rebol/delete $ rm chey-*.log; rebol -qws ~/rebol/cheyenne-server-read-only/Cheyenne/cheyenne.r 
-w 0 -vvv


onetom ~/rebol/delete $ curl -X DELETE -D- http://localhost:8888/test
HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
Server: Cheyenne/0.9.20
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:14:04 GMT
Content-Length: 53
Content-Type: text/html
Connection: close

<html><body><h1>404 Page not found</h1></body></html>


>> p: open/no-wait/direct tcp://localhost:8888
>>  insert p "DELETE /show.rsp HTTP/1.0^/^/"
>> probe copy p
{HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
Server: Cheyenne/0.9.20
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:17:34 GMT
Content-Length: 53
Content-Type: text/html
Connection: close

<html><body><h1>404 Page not found</h1></body></html>}



u were doing 1.0 DELETE request though, but it didn't make any difference.

onetom ~/rebol/cheyenne-server-read-only/Cheyenne $ svn up
U    mods/mod-action.r
Updated to revision 131.
or is it better to paste such bigger chunks somewhere else?
email it? or pastebin.com?
Dockimbel
20-Apr-2011
[9977x3]
pastebin is a better option
A few remarks about your config:
- modules [ internal extapp static rsp alias ] : it is missing 'action 
module which is required for external handlers (RSP and CGI)
onetom
20-Apr-2011
[9980]
oops, i forgot the /test from the url
Dockimbel
20-Apr-2011
[9981x2]
- globals [ listen [8888]    bind RSP to [ .r ] ] : it should be 
BIND-EXTERN (for worker handler) instead of BIND (main process internal 
module,  like SSI). Your .r scripts are anyway working because .r 
scripts are supported as alternative to .rsp since 0.9.20
BTW, listen 8888 should word (block is only required when several 
listening ports are specified)
onetom
20-Apr-2011
[9983x3]
true, forgot about that
so since 0.9.20 .r is bind-externd to RSP?
does it take precedence over bind RSP too? because otherwise my thing 
seemd to work... even .r reloading was happening and all that
hmm.. this separated example doesnt work indeed
Dockimbel
20-Apr-2011
[9986x2]
so since 0.9.20 .r is bind-externd to RSP?

 Yes, but in a particular way: .r are not considered "templates" but 
 plain REBOL scripts (with a REBOL header). So, if you want to use 
 RSP templates with .r, you should add a BIND-EXTERN directive (untested, 
 so I'm unsure if it would work)
I need to check the code for how .r are precisely handled, I coded 
that a few months ago and almost forgot about it.
onetom
20-Apr-2011
[9988]
if u note it down here tonite i will shovel ur words into the cheyenne 
wiki
Dockimbel
20-Apr-2011
[9989]
I need to work on Red this afternoon, I'll do a pass on things to 
add in Cheyenne tonight.
onetom
20-Apr-2011
[9990x2]
the binary works, the source doesn't...
the source version just gives 404 to everything
Maxim
20-Apr-2011
[9992]
can anyone get a login for the cheyenne wiki?


I'd really like to put down my trials and errors of building my own 
cheyenne mod (with handler), so that others may benefit of knowing 
the few little caveats which can make the whole thing fail .... 
maybe do something like a step by step tutorial to begin with.


I'd also like to document all the phases of each internal layer of 
cheyenne (there are many), so that we can more easily navigate the 
code, knowing what we are doing and what other phase is part of each 
type of mod,extension, service, etc.   often, we see just one or 
two parts of a system implemented per module and its hard to get 
the whole picture.   


ironically, looking at the base objects is also hard to do, since 
there is so much "internal" code that it gets REALLY hard to understand 
what is internal, what is "interface" and what is provided as helper 
funcs for your own systems to use.  Add the fact that there are many 
layers sitting over each other, some layers which aren't actually 
layers of code, but layers in the "chain of command" and various 
phases.


now that I've made sense of a *portion* of this, I think I'm well 
placed to start documenting this.   I think that having a complete 
api reference for cheyenne would be really good for adoptance.


It would allow many of us to simply create integrated tools which 
just drop into cheyenne.  (like remark)
onetom
20-Apr-2011
[9993]
~1.5yr ago i backed off from cheyenne because i could build a configuration 
service from the mini webserver on rebol.org. it's just ~60 likes 
of code and handles get only
Henrik
20-Apr-2011
[9994]
My main weakness with Cheyenne is the debugging of webapp handlers. 
I simply can't tell what's going on and why they won't run in my 
webapp.
Kaj
20-Apr-2011
[9995x5]
show.cgi: I can't provide a CGI script that would work out of the 
box on all OSes and every possible local configuration, so I've left 
it as-is for users to adapt the shebang line. Using onetom's setup 
script might be the best solution, I'm thinking about integrating 
it in the Cheyenne sources package.
Odd, I don't remember having to fix it before, and I didn't formalise 
it in my build scripts, but thanks
Kaj: fast-rebol-cgi issue fixed in revision 131. If you need a new 
Linux binary, I can build you one (just let me know if you prefer 
a /Pro or /Cmd version).
Pro please, but no hurry. If you can combine it with other changes, 
please do
Ah, wouldn't it be that the shebang line doesn't need to be adapted 
once fast-rebol-cgi is enabled again?
Dockimbel
20-Apr-2011
[10000x3]
Right, in fast-rebol-cgi mode, the shebang line is not processed.
Also, I might have changed the shebang lines in CGI demo scripts 
to Windows format for local testing without reverting them to UNIX 
format once done.
I think that I'll setup some automated nightly builds, but probably 
only for Linux target as a start. I could later add Windows support 
(I have a Windows box running 24/7), but MacOS will be missing.
Maxim
20-Apr-2011
[10003]
if you have all the setup and scripts, I have a mac machine running 
24/7... it could easily grab the lates svn and dump the build where 
you want  :-)
Dockimbel
20-Apr-2011
[10004]
No time tonight to setup the automated builds, will do that tomorrow 
after finishing 8/16-bit support in Red/System.
onetom
20-Apr-2011
[10005]
thx for not disappearing in the depths of ur cave without a word 
;)

my jsondb works with angular now thru cheyenne, btw. no delete though, 
but not a big issue yet.
Kaj
20-Apr-2011
[10006]
Ditto. Doc seems to work harder on Cheyenne while taking on Red. 
Maybe we should come up with a third major project for him ;-)
Dockimbel
21-Apr-2011
[10007]
If you can provide me a solution to avoid sleeping, why not. ;-)
Kaj
21-Apr-2011
[10008]
I've been working on one, but I still need to debug it. The current 
method causes crankiness
Maxim
21-Apr-2011
[10009]
my take on sleep  :  The most useful way to waste time    ;-)
Kaj
21-Apr-2011
[10010]
I guess you're forced to that conclusion if you have kids :-)
Maxim
21-Apr-2011
[10011]
hehe
Kaj
21-Apr-2011
[10012]
I don't even consider it wasted, because I know my brain programs 
on while asleep. At dawn, it will often have worked out yesterday's 
problem. The question is whether the code input of Doc's extra project 
can fit in his waking time
Maxim
21-Apr-2011
[10013x3]
yeah, I know... I have 4 batch cores (which is why I often work as 
quickly on 4 projects as some do on one  :-)
but when the problems are complex, the night sleep doesn't fill up 
the whole time slot.   i.e. the solution is resolved and there is 
still a lot of batch time left.
btw folks, a funded, cheyenne-related project I'm working on has 
been green lit for public release.  I'll be doing a full announcement 
tomorrow on what it is, and possibly even a prototype code release. 
 :-D
GrahamC
22-Apr-2011
[10016x2]
give us a hint
a small bone will do
Maxim
22-Apr-2011
[10018]
web api
Dockimbel
22-Apr-2011
[10019x2]
FYI, I'm working on setting up automated Linux builds for Cheyenne.
Automated builds are now up and running (Linux only): http://cheyenne-server.org/download.shtml