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[!Cheyenne] Discussions about the Cheyenne Web Server
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Graham 25-Aug-2010 [8840] | and it does when you use a rsp extension |
florin 25-Aug-2010 [8841] | Don't you love it when it happens! I was working on the http.cfg file located in the cheyenne source rather then the proper one. I should've listened ot my wife an go to bed! |
Graham 25-Aug-2010 [8842] | so, we've been chatting for 45 mins because you were working on the wrong file??? |
florin 25-Aug-2010 [8843] | 45 minutes? I outta go. I messed up your time. |
Graham 25-Aug-2010 [8844] | LOL |
florin 25-Aug-2010 [8845] | Would you not find this web framework appealing though? |
Graham 25-Aug-2010 [8846x3] | not me ... |
ie. I'd like to see it working first | |
it looks more higher maintenance than what I had in mind | |
florin 25-Aug-2010 [8849x2] | Well... I am going to find out what a good night sleep does. |
You say so because in your dialect, the master of the page is yourself. What do you do though when you have to interract with web designers? | |
Graham 25-Aug-2010 [8851] | give them the template I guess |
florin 25-Aug-2010 [8852] | The re-usability that you are looking for (i.e. the JS, etc) could be met with a simple configuration file and page fragements. |
Graham 25-Aug-2010 [8853] | In my idea, the template would be loaded from DB .. so it could be altered on a per user basis |
florin 25-Aug-2010 [8854] | Besides, CSS would take care of most cases of re-use. |
Graham 25-Aug-2010 [8855x2] | Having a single template does not appeal |
but .. show me the pudding and I'll eat it :) | |
florin 25-Aug-2010 [8857] | :) We need to write some code then. See ya. And thanks for the time. |
Graham 25-Aug-2010 [8858] | bye |
Kaj 25-Aug-2010 [8859x3] | Florin, Gabriele wrote a templating engine based on XML ID attributes several years ago. It's called Temple |
I agree with your requirement of designer-approachable templates | |
Most other REBOL engines you'll find are based on the reverse concept of wanting to make as much as possible into REBOL syntax | |
florin 25-Aug-2010 [8862x3] | Kaj, thanks. I will look for it. |
Well, half hour google search does not help finding it. | |
Does anyone have a busy httpd.cfg to share? Trying to learn from some practical examples. | |
Graham 25-Aug-2010 [8865] | I don't think I've ever seen Temple |
florin 25-Aug-2010 [8866] | I don't find much use of rebol view. I'm interested in browser based stuff, and that's the only way I'd spend time with rebol. I'd love to take a look at Temple. |
PeterWood 25-Aug-2010 [8867x2] | I believe this is what you are looking for - http://www.rebol.it/giesse/temple.r I found it by searching the mailing list archives at rebol.org |
This recorded AltME discussion seems to serve as documentation - http://www.rebol.it/giesse/Temple.pdf | |
florin 25-Aug-2010 [8869x3] | Wonderful. I'm going to look into it. |
I read the conversation. That is what I am looking for. Unfortunatelly, it was anandoned. Temple is not using Cheyenee but cgi. | |
Graham: It appears that this could be some proof in the puding. Andrew has few concerns that seemed to be much like yours. Interesting read. I wish I came accross this type of framework when I was still doing Struts in 2003. | |
Graham 25-Aug-2010 [8872x3] | temple is pre-cheyenne |
It looks like similar ideas are involved .. complete separation of layout from code | |
Interesting item from the past .. both Brett and Andrew have droppped out of the Rebol scene ... the latter not by choice though | |
florin 25-Aug-2010 [8875] | He passed away or rebol became illegal in his country? |
Graham 25-Aug-2010 [8876x2] | He lives in NZ .. I'm not aware of any laws against Rebol here |
But he did get sick .. | |
Gabriele 26-Aug-2010 [8878] | Temple is just an engine, so it can run in any context. It was mostly an experiment, and the HTML parser was very basic. I have a much better parser now, adapting the functions from Temple should not be hard. (left as a nice exercise to the reader :-) http://www.rebol.it/power-mezz/mezz/load-html.html |
Graham 26-Aug-2010 [8879x2] | still CGI though? |
Hmm... that makes 3 websites you keep your stuff? | |
Gabriele 26-Aug-2010 [8881x2] | load-html is just a function. |
i have some old stuff scattered around. i'm trying to put most of the newest stuff in the Power Mezz package which is on Sourceforge and www.rebol.it | |
Graham 26-Aug-2010 [8883] | what's colle...a used for? |
Gabriele 26-Aug-2010 [8884] | more "personal" / work in progress stuff. i've decided to put the Power Mezz on www.rebol.it instead because that seems to make more sense. |
Graham 26-Aug-2010 [8885] | so no more Apache directory listings? |
Graham 27-Aug-2010 [8886x2] | Doc says he will try and fix the 'alert issue ... though he's not sure it will fix the ability to run as a service |
He'll be back here in a few days to answer questiona | |
florin 28-Aug-2010 [8888] | Gabrielle: temple.r is dependent on utilities.r. Could not find it. |
Graham 28-Aug-2010 [8889] | FYI, Gabrielle is the female form of Gabriele |
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