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[!Cheyenne] Discussions about the Cheyenne Web Server

Dockimbel
9-Jul-2010
[8353]
I mean, if you've used something like ws://intranet/app.rsp and ws://intranet 
is not resolved on your server, that's would be the cause of your 
issue
Terry
9-Jul-2010
[8354]
from the server, i cant' get a message to on-message .. but from 
the other client, I can.. only it won't reply.
Dockimbel
9-Jul-2010
[8355x2]
Terry: just replace ws:// by http:// and test the URL from rebol 
console with a READ (from your server box)
(or from a ws-enabled browser from your server box)
Terry
9-Jul-2010
[8357]
hmm.. how about this.. when i close Cheyenne, the messages are sent 
back to the browser..AFTER it closes
Dockimbel
9-Jul-2010
[8358]
if it works on port 80 and not 82, the issue is probably not Cheyenne-related
Terry
9-Jul-2010
[8359x2]
The port 80 vs 82 was a guess.
One of the problems is debugging this stuff in Chrome... not sure 
how to watch the traffic.. need some network sniffing tools i suppose.
Graham
9-Jul-2010
[8361]
doc, is curecode still under active development ?  Is there a release 
1 on the horizon?
Terry
9-Jul-2010
[8362]
The exact same code is working fine on another server.. move to here 
and *poof*
Graham
9-Jul-2010
[8363]
Is windows 7 your target platform?
Terry
9-Jul-2010
[8364x3]
I use 'em all baby.. I .. use .. them... all.
well, except for Mac
Apple had their chance back in the early 80's.. back then you had 
a choice, forfeit the downpayment on a house and buy a Mac, or get 
a clone.
Dockimbel
9-Jul-2010
[8367]
Graham, curecode development is currently on hold, as all my REBOL 
related projects (except Cheyenne for bugfixing and minor improvements)
Graham
9-Jul-2010
[8368x3]
That's what I feared ...
So, is there going to be a groovy version??
Or is it Scala ?
Dockimbel
9-Jul-2010
[8371x2]
hehe, probably not groovy, I didn't yet choose my next programming 
language...JS is currently my favorite for frontends thought.
Scala: too many java dependencies, so not for me.
Graham
9-Jul-2010
[8373]
I tried to install Jira .. but it no longer supports Firebird so 
I was looking for something else
Dockimbel
9-Jul-2010
[8374]
I'm still wondering if I should build my own language (probably REBOL-derivated) 
or dive in a mainstream one...
Graham
9-Jul-2010
[8375x2]
Well, Jira works fine under Windows .. but Linux requires more knowledge
Well, there's Karl's clone ...
Dockimbel
9-Jul-2010
[8377]
I've heard good things from Jira's users
Graham
9-Jul-2010
[8378]
and of course there's freebell ...
Terry
9-Jul-2010
[8379]
ahh.. ok.. working now
Dockimbel
9-Jul-2010
[8380]
Graham, yes I know that project, but I have my own unreleased prototype 
clone kernels (at least one is more advanced than Boron or Orca)
Graham
9-Jul-2010
[8381]
Looks like Frank did a lot of work on Freebell ..
Terry
9-Jul-2010
[8382]
trying to hammer this out, i fixed the original problem, but introduced 
other bugs.
Dockimbel
9-Jul-2010
[8383]
Freebell is just a proof of concept
Graham
9-Jul-2010
[8384]
something that runs on the JVM would be great ...
Dockimbel
9-Jul-2010
[8385]
(a good working one, Frank did a good job)
Terry
9-Jul-2010
[8386]
this stuff needs some debugging tools
Dockimbel
9-Jul-2010
[8387]
Graham: the jvm is just a target like .net or any cpu...
Terry
9-Jul-2010
[8388]
however, still not working from host.. prob a windows 7 hostname 
thing.
Graham
9-Jul-2010
[8389]
sure .. a virtual cpu
Dockimbel
9-Jul-2010
[8390x2]
Terry, try to debug from the rebol console if possible
Graham: what's stopping me to work on such clone project is just 
the business model, hard to earn money from that...
Graham
9-Jul-2010
[8392x2]
sure .. no $ in languages .. Carl has proved that
But it's the long term security of having your own custom environment 
I guess
Dockimbel
9-Jul-2010
[8394]
derivated products like an IDE could be sold, but it will be hard 
to compete with zillions of other programming languages anyway...
Graham
9-Jul-2010
[8395]
or we could start a bounty for rebol on the JVM :)
Terry
9-Jul-2010
[8396]
Doc, it's the same prob.. disconnecting at the client .. Cheyenne 
isn't even aware of the disconnection.
Dockimbel
9-Jul-2010
[8397x3]
Graham, without money, it's just not worth it, you need a lot of 
libraries to make a programming language useful, no way one man only 
can build all the required ones...but if it can generate enough incomes, 
you can pay some developers for that.
Terry: when he issue is either related to the brower or the OS
*then
Terry
9-Jul-2010
[8400]
so it connects, C (short for Cheyenne.. don't know why I didn't think 
of THAT before) prints to the console "connected" .. client disconnects 
and no response from C
Graham
9-Jul-2010
[8401]
But if you run on the JVM or .net, then won't you have access to 
the libraries then?
Dockimbel
9-Jul-2010
[8402]
Terry: enable verbose mode in C starting it with -vvvvv to see if 
C see the request