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[!Liquid] any questions about liquid dataflow core.
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Maxim 24-May-2007 [531x4] | and actually generate other data from it like diffs or comparison reports. :-) |
you can figure out that out of 10 systems, one is actually contributing to most of the indirect unwanted outputs. | |
cause in many times when IT changes you get unwanted results out of its interaction with other systems. | |
although that is all very high level speak. at low level its still pretty much the same concept. | |
Jean-François 24-May-2007 [535] | Maxim, I don't know if this would be considered simpe, but here is a suggestion: http://www.bliner.com/projectmanagement.html |
Mario 25-May-2007 [536] | Ditto: http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/ConceptDraw_MINDMAP_Professional_for_Mac_OS_X/1118155814/2 |
Robert 25-May-2007 [537x2] | Max, on of the best examples would be a Rebol based simple 20x20 Excel clone. Let people use Rebol code in the cells, and handle the reference handling via Liquid. It should be perfect DF applicable. |
If this works, I'm adding it into my app ;-) | |
Pekr 25-May-2007 [539] | you could use nano-sheets, no? :-) |
Gregg 25-May-2007 [540] | It would probably be easy to plug liquid in to nanosheets. I'd like to see that too. The current evaluation order is fixed L->R-->Top->Bottom; with liquid you might be able to do away with that entirely, and let the evaluation drive things. |
Maxim 25-May-2007 [541x5] | perfect examples :-) I forgot about the spreadsheets yes, it would be pretty simple to wire up :-) |
where Can I find nanosheets? | |
jean-francois, that would be an integral part of elixir :-) so wait for it to give you such capabilities within your whole work environment | |
mario, mind maps are very cool... I would like to make an optimised tool for quickly creating and organising mind maps in elixir but I can say that I hope others will join me in adding toolsets... its the whole point of elixir, an open, common framework of integrated and live tools. anything goes into anything, so you can do things like share data between, you graphics, mind map and project management... why not even use some of it to drive the GUI building for one of the panes... I mean, in the end, they are all being used for one goal. | |
robert, If I start from scratch, it will be an n dimension spreadsheet with a scale of infinity in each of those dimensions (thus really limited by RAM, disk and REBOL types). why start it up with a limitiation which is actually very easy to design correctly for starters... especially with GLayout which would just adjust the views as they grow. | |
Gregg 25-May-2007 [546] | I think the final nanosheets code went up with the DevX article. If not, I have it here. |
Maxim 25-May-2007 [547x2] | can you mail it to me? does it depend on any particular version of view? |
why is it not on rebol.org? | |
Gregg 25-May-2007 [549x2] | http://www.devx.com/opensource/Article/27454/0/page/1 http://www.devx.com/opensource/Article/27969 |
I'll mail it as well. Not on REBOL.org...just time, priorities, and lazyness. | |
Maxim 25-May-2007 [551] | ok. can it be packaged as a library module ;-) I'd put it up on revault |
Maxim 5-Jun-2007 [552x2] | (just started looking at nanosheets... must have a little fun) |
hum... I'm thinking its going to be much easier to make a pico sheets ;-) | |
btiffin 5-Jun-2007 [554] | I'll pipe in...I've got a modified copy of nanosheets with scroll bars so it could support more cells for financials sheets for the Fire Deparment volunteers... |
Maxim 5-Jun-2007 [555x2] | I've started a simple test... but will start over... the new version will handle as much cells as you have RAM :-) |
(or until the GC starts caving in ;-) | |
btiffin 5-Jun-2007 [557] | :) |
Maxim 5-Jun-2007 [558] | basically going to use a HASH of liquid nodes (the nodes themselves being already connected) and just asking for cell values, based on what cells are visible within the scrollpane. |
Josh 17-Apr-2008 [559x2] | Maxim, you ever get some more of those demos worked up for liquid? |
although it looks like he hasn't been on for a while | |
Tomc 19-Apr-2008 [561] | I think you can still get his attention on the maillist |
Graham 19-Apr-2008 [562] | and gmail chat |
Mchean 8-Jul-2008 [563] | any results? |
Sunanda 8-Jul-2008 [564] | Max posted this to the mailing list about a month ago: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-message.r?m=rmlFGXC |
Graham 8-Jul-2008 [565] | Max lives in a world of his own ... and I don't know the address! |
Maxim 8-Dec-2008 [566] | hahahahahahahahaha |
Graham 8-Dec-2008 [567] | Has liquid now solidified? |
Maxim 8-Dec-2008 [568] | I've been using liquid in a variety of projects for the better part of 2 years now... its ubber stable, fast and quite scalable... in fact much better than I had anticipated, for such an un optimised piece of code. |
Graham 8-Dec-2008 [569] | So, all the critics were wrong? |
Maxim 8-Dec-2008 [570] | what critics heheheh |
Graham 8-Dec-2008 [571] | There were a number ... I can remind you if you like :) |
Maxim 8-Dec-2008 [572] | elixir, for example, easily allocates 10 000 nodes, creates a several thousand line AGG script and actually manages to rebuild the whole AGG dialect block faster than view can redraw it. |
Graham 8-Dec-2008 [573] | You should be a salesman |
Maxim 8-Dec-2008 [574] | elixir builds a 100% native AGG GUI . EVERYTHING is built using liquid, event the field (control) properties and cursor management. |
Graham 8-Dec-2008 [575] | does it do anything useful? |
Maxim 8-Dec-2008 [576x2] | the first real GLASS gui prototype is implemented within elixir... the whole field widget is about 30 lines of code IIRC and data is bound to input type without any coding needed within the actual widget. |
elixir, itself is about 90% done. file i/o is done, GUI framework finiwhed, CLI 100% operational, all I needed was to finish the data query language to be able to create/list/edit/delete stuff in the data cloud more easily... | |
Graham 8-Dec-2008 [578] | Pity none of us know what you're talkin about! |
Maxim 8-Dec-2008 [579x2] | then, the goal was to build actuall software *within* elixir. |
elixir is a next generation Operating system. | |
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