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BrianH 21-Jan-2009 [9934] | The 2 completed are documentation requests. The reason the tested and dismissed ones are not marked completed is because I don't know the policy for making that distinction. |
Dockimbel 22-Jan-2009 [9935] | Tested=>Completed : I guess that once the fix (or new feature) is released to users, it should be marked as completed. |
PeterWood 22-Jan-2009 [9936x2] | It would be grest if you could get the tested requests marked as completed as the stats give such a bad false impression. |
Doc's definition sounds good with the proviso that the status can be reverted if the user finds the bug hasn't been fixed. | |
Dockimbel 22-Jan-2009 [9938] | Btw, ticket should be closed by the emitter once the fix is released. If the user don't do that after a given period (let say 1 or 2 weeks, one of CC's admin or developers can do that instead). |
Janko 22-Jan-2009 [9939x2] | BrianH : yes please remove "else" |
virtual block looks very cool ! how were you able to use the same words insert,copy,etc.. on new datatype (I suppose without changing the initial insert functions) .. can this be done in rebol, I thought it's not possible but being able to define something like generic words on custom datatypes would be very important function? hm.. while I am at it... I realized I have no idea about what datatypes in rebol are and if one can make it's own.. | |
Henrik 22-Jan-2009 [9941] | Janko, because the supported functions like COPY works on ports, and virtual blocks is a port scheme, customizing how COPY works with that specific scheme. |
Janko 22-Jan-2009 [9942x3] | Ahaa.. I saw ports and schemes mentioned and that you can define your own, but still have no idea what they are, will need to read more about it.. |
rebol is both very small and very big at the same time | |
(in a good way) | |
Henrik 22-Jan-2009 [9945] | so it's not a new datatype, but a new scheme for port!. |
Janko 22-Jan-2009 [9946] | yes, I realized .. that's why I said big.. usually there are functions and variables, here are so many things, dialects, schemes .. etc :) |
Henrik 22-Jan-2009 [9947] | I think you can figure out how it works by reading Steeves code. It's quite simple. |
Janko 22-Jan-2009 [9948x2] | that link doesn't work for me , and I also don't have r3 to test it |
I saw some tutorial about creating new "protoco handler" .. or is that a third thing? | |
Henrik 22-Jan-2009 [9950x3] | it should be the same thing |
if you read about ports in the wiki, they'll give a fair explanation of how they work. | |
it's the same reason you can use READ on files, HTTP, FTP, etc. | |
Janko 22-Jan-2009 [9953x2] | aha yes.. this is interesting concept .. I was alredy thinking about it when I was using pop:// protocol (carl probably realized that most "communication" can be abstracted in means on operating on serries).. |
then I suppose to create new scheme needs to just provide handlers for all those funcs, insert, copy, delete .. ? | |
[unknown: 5] 22-Jan-2009 [9955] | Henrik, to what level are you being involved in R3 development? |
Henrik 22-Jan-2009 [9956] | I work on the GUI and point out bugs to Carl. |
[unknown: 5] 22-Jan-2009 [9957] | Do you guys get to get down to the C code at all or is that strictly controlled by Carl? |
Henrik 22-Jan-2009 [9958] | C is only Carl and Cyphre. Everyone else only work with REBOL. But we are allowed to contribute C code if he wants something specific. |
[unknown: 5] 22-Jan-2009 [9959] | Oh what about Gabriele? I thought he had that type of access. |
Henrik 22-Jan-2009 [9960] | Yes, but he is very busy with QTask for the moment. He has contributed HTTP, REBOL/Services and the first prototype of the VID3 GUI. |
[unknown: 5] 22-Jan-2009 [9961] | I see. |
Henrik 22-Jan-2009 [9962] | Janko, yes, exactly. If you open a port, you get a port object with information about what the scheme does. When that port is passed to COPY, appropriate actions are taken to carry out the COPY function that resides inside the scheme. |
[unknown: 5] 22-Jan-2009 [9963] | All of you volunteers are do you guys get paid for your work? |
Henrik 22-Jan-2009 [9964] | I volunteer. I don't know about others. |
[unknown: 5] 22-Jan-2009 [9965] | Is there a list of all those contributing to R3? |
Henrik 22-Jan-2009 [9966] | Our official people list appears not to be up to date: http://rebol.net/wiki/People :-) |
[unknown: 5] 22-Jan-2009 [9967] | hehe - no doesn't appear so. |
Henrik 22-Jan-2009 [9968] | well, there's me (GUI), BrianH (smart guy), Brian Tiffin (docs), Cyphre (graphics), Gabriele (network/GUI), Pekr (communications), Maarten (network), and about 10 others who've made contributions. Didn't really want to mention people in case I forget important ones. |
[unknown: 5] 22-Jan-2009 [9969x2] | I understand. But that is helpful, thanks. |
I think Steeve and Doc are involved in some manner as well. | |
Henrik 22-Jan-2009 [9971] | oh yes. see? I forgot some. :-) |
Janko 22-Jan-2009 [9972x4] | Paul: when you were asking about default arguments to funcs before, I think it's a "conceptual" limitation because of stuff like this example (for example that oneortwo can take 1 or 2 arguments : >> oneortwo 2 add 3 2 ............. and most things like if either are expressions which means they return a value (which you sometimes need and sometimes not ) you can "assume" that you will always require result of add because it has no side effect, but for example : >> oneortwo 2 if [ insert copy [ ] 1 ] ..... there is no theoretical way to determine if result of if SHOULD be taken by oneortwo or not |
thats probably why refinements were invented , that also add a lot of new | |
OCaml for example has optional arguments , but you HAVE to use parentesis like this oneorwto 2 ( add 3 2 ) and every value that get's returned from expression must sink into something explicitly .. so if you don't need it you have to still use >> let _ = somefunc 10 in <<.. or >> ignore ( somefunc ) ; .. | |
(but I am a ocaml newbie too) | |
Steeve 22-Jan-2009 [9976] | [Virtual blocks] What do you think of an option to allow fixed-size records only, so that there is no need to create a file index (faster access but data file possibly bigger) |
Henrik 22-Jan-2009 [9977] | yes, I like that. |
Janko 22-Jan-2009 [9978x2] | yes that would be a cool option too |
Steeve ... are there any chances to see this also in R2? | |
Steeve 22-Jan-2009 [9980x2] | theoricaly yes, schemes exist under R2 too |
do you want R2 version at first ? | |
Anton 22-Jan-2009 [9982] | BrianH: ELSE - I never used it. I don't care if it's removed. |
Janko 22-Jan-2009 [9983] | well at least there is a chance :) .. well I don't know when I will be able to try R3 at all, and even less when I will be able to use in for real projects... that's why I am asking, but I don't "urgently" need it right now so no worries for me |
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