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Gregg 14-May-2006 [964] | I also have a note that maybe /into should be the default behavior and /size or /part should be the refinement. It's an old func, and I don't use it too much myself. It can be handy at times though. |
Volker 14-May-2006 [965x2] | I need the opposite too, and call them 'enblock and 'deblock. |
mainly incombination with 'union and friends. | |
Graham 14-May-2006 [967x2] | Are we storing these functions in altme, or the mailing list, or some other more accessible archive? |
Doesn't Gregg have a functions archive somewhere? | |
Sunanda 14-May-2006 [969] | Altme/REBOL3 is a poor place to keep useful functions: they have close to a 0% chance of being found by anyone looking via a search engine (only most recemt 300 messsages are visible, remember).....Though REBOL2 and the originla REBOL world are even tougher for anyone new to mine data from. (Altme/REBOL3 is a great place to _develop_ useful functions) *** The ML is slightly better. At least it is visible, though not very structured -- it can be hard to tell if you are looking at the latest&greatest version of a function, or just one of many interim revisions. *** You are thinking of http://www.bigbold.com/snippets/tag/REBOL-- a code snippets library that Gregg has contributed to. |
[unknown: 9] 14-May-2006 [970] | Agreed, shouldn't this by definition be in the library? |
Graham 14-May-2006 [971] | A functional language should have a function library? |
[unknown: 9] 14-May-2006 [972] | : ) |
Volker 15-May-2006 [973] | Josh talked about rebol as external process,sharing window. As a possibility for plugin. Its not plugin, but could that work between rebol-apps? view-desktop could profit a lot. |
Henrik 15-May-2006 [974] | that would be very cool. instant desktop service for rebol apps. |
Volker 15-May-2006 [975x3] | %index.r could then contain real code and play animations, without taking over. |
Maybe add a little message-exchange, and konfabulatorisdone. | |
(call it active icons :) | |
ScottT 15-May-2006 [978x2] | I think of Acrobat and MSAgent with regard to this--one instance of an exe that bridges all the instances. |
I am more familiar with msagent. There is a server process that coordinates all the instances of the MSAgent control, wherever they may be, windows app, browser window, wherever. | |
Geomol 20-May-2006 [980] | In REBOL3, would it be an idea to add a /deep refinement to REDUCE, so it'll reduce blocks within blocks? |
Gregg 20-May-2006 [981] | I'd bet a lot of us have thought of that one. I haven't pushed for it, because it seems like the places I think I'd use it most would have exceptions in the other direction. That is, I want to reduce *almost* everything, but there are exceptions. I also thought about a version that let you specify the words you wanted reduced (reduce-only series words), and would do a deep reduce, then RT added /only, which works backwards from that, so I thought my idea would be confusing. |
Anton 20-May-2006 [982] | Could be useful for little things. |
Gregg 20-May-2006 [983] | Worth working up as a mezzanine in any case I suppose. |
Louis 20-May-2006 [984] | Is rebol3 going to support file locking? I think that is the correct term. I need for several users to be entering data into the same file at the same time. Is there a way to do this right now? |
Volker 20-May-2006 [985] | Gabriele suggest to open a port as server, because a port can only be opened by one process. Thus it can act as lock. Os-filelocking is not supported. |
Louis 20-May-2006 [986] | How do I open a port as a server? |
Volker 20-May-2006 [987x2] | port: open tcp://:8912 ;note the ":" |
And if that fails somebody has that port open. (or some firewall goes angry or whatever, but that is another problem). | |
Louis 20-May-2006 [989x3] | Ok. Thanks. I'll try that. |
As an SOA, REBOL/Services gives you an easy way to create a wide variety of applications such as: Secure file sharing | |
Does that mean that rebol services would also be a solution to my problem? | |
Anton 21-May-2006 [992] | I believe Rebol3 will have inter-task messaging, so probably the same trick can be used. |
Pekr 21-May-2006 [993] | Volker - but doesn't opening port work on one machine only? Still semaphore file is probably better way to go, at least under Windows, where it does not let you to delete file, when it is opened by some other task ..... |
Volker 21-May-2006 [994x4] | Yes, works on one machine only. I think that is the usual case for small accounts. If you are bigger, you should use a daemon to sequence access IMHO. |
And use cgi only as proxy. | |
Louis: The up/download is easy in rebservices. Some things need be to figured out, (user-management, no http-proy, allows upload of functions, filter them out!). But Gabriele is here. | |
Should comparing chars be case-insensitive? Its the default everywhere else, i was surprised it is not. And '== is still there for exact match. | |
Anton 21-May-2006 [998] | Just considering equality with the CHAR! type. We think it might be better to move the currently simple, case-insensitive equality test to strict-equal. |
Volker 21-May-2006 [999] | (5 seconds faster! :) |
Anton 21-May-2006 [1000x2] | :) Let's see if it's in RAMBO anywhere... |
Trying to remember where we should post our Rebol3 ideas. | |
Volker 21-May-2006 [1002] | Wasnt it "tell Gabriele"? |
Anton 21-May-2006 [1003x2] | Not really in RAMBO, closest is: http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=3853& |
Rebol3 roadmap page directs to feedback: http://www.rebol.com/feedback.html | |
Gabriele 22-May-2006 [1005] | if you consider it a bug, even for current versions, then rambo is best. if it's just for discussion for r3, then "tell Gabriele" is fine. if it's a generic wish, rambo is ok too. |
BrianH 22-May-2006 [1006] | We put in our 2 cents here and there, and pretty soon it adds up to real money, so to speak. |
Anton 22-May-2006 [1007] | Alright, off to Rambo then. (I recall discussions all about equality and strict-equal a long time ago.) |
Joe 22-May-2006 [1008] | Gabriele, any plans to improve the library interface for R3, or even make it free so that more people use it (I don't think this affects RT sales b/c most companies buy solutions, e.g. FCGI or MySQL api, ... ) |
Gabriele 23-May-2006 [1009] | the library interface will be improved, but i can't say if this will happen with the first release of r3. |
Pekr 23-May-2006 [1010] | Gabriele - what will happen to ports? Carl mentioned e.g. mySQL will move away from kernel - will there be any other "component" (call it whatever) interface to "plug-in" functionality to rebol? |
Gabriele 23-May-2006 [1011] | i don't have any details yet. |
Pekr 23-May-2006 [1012] | it is a pity, I would like to form a bigger picture - how all those things will be organised - library interface, plug-in interface, View - will it be just a component? What is /platform, etc.? So, patience and wait mode? :-) |
Gabriele 23-May-2006 [1013] | yes, everything will eventually make sense ;) |
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