World: r3wp

easy to talk hard to do

Steeve .. don't waste your time on a r2 chat .. there's no traffic 
on there.  Spend your time on schemes :)

We need a place to set a system timeout ...

To my mind, we need a better framework to design shames using a FSM 
dialect

shames=schemes

Like uniserve?

;-)

uniserve has some good ideas

Or do you mean use a dialect to define the scheme?

yes a dialect to construct schemes

meta programming

Rebol is especially good with those things

someone did FSM in the past. Gregg? Henrik?

Gregg

One from gabriele - http://www.colellachiara.com/soft/Misc/qml/fsm.rlp

Ladislav has done one too. Time for a FSM battle?

I suspect that you have to write a few schemes to see what is needed 
and then write the scheme dialect

yup we should start with the html one in R3, it's a huge one currently

Here's related ML discussion - http://www.rebol.org/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlFDMJ

http://www.rebol.com/r3/docs/functions/write.html


says there is a /binary refinement .. but this doesn't exist any 
more

Graham, I'd do what you want with:

pipe ftp://somehost/somefile%/path/to/somefile

my implementation of PIPE is only a few lines. i think it should 
be native to R3.

my lower level is working like this

write port [ RETR "bigfile" %bigfile ]

how does switch on type? work?

switch type? %test.r [ .... ]

what do I need to write in the block to catch it ?

Gab, you should pipe up with the source to pipe :)

Graham:
>> switch type?/word 1 [integer! [print "ahoj"]]
== ahoj

Graham, weird, but you can try:

>> switch to-word type? %test.r [file! [print "... a file"]]
... a file

so return of 'type? is not a type? Well, we have not a datatype type? 
Yes, we have - datatype! .... but help reveals you can't do "to-datatype" 
...

Also this works:

>> switch type? 1 reduce [integer! [print "ahoj"]]
== 
ahoj

type?/word is here for that

Pekr, return of type? is datatype!! but the datatype in the switch 
block is just word!, not datatype! .

So you need word! from type! or reduce the seitch block to get datatype! 
instead of word! .

why is datatype a word? :-)

Hmm, you are right:

>> type? file!
== datatype!

>> type? first [file!]
== word!

because the block is not evaulated

>> type? first reduce [word!]

== datatype!

It may look confusing, but it makes perfect sense, it same as:

>> a: 1                 

== 1


>> type? first [a]       

== word!

>> type? first reduce [a]
== integer!

Graham: Binary is the default for read & write in R3. The documentation 
doesn't seem to have been fully updated for R3 yet,

Rebolek - then switch should be supplied a reduced block :-)

We are not talking about block here, but a function body. And if 
I write switch type? %user.r [file! [print "... a file"]] ... it 
is imo supposed to work ...

...switch should be supplied a reduced block

no, that's wrong. See:

>> a: 1
== 1
>> switch 'a [a ["ok"]]
== "ok"


>> switch 'a reduce [a ["ok"]]

== none

>> a: 1
== 1
>> switch a reduce [a ["ok"]]
== "ok"

how is novice supposed to know, that actually submitting result of 
type? %user.r is not going to work with file! datatype in a switch 
body?

no need for reducing
  type? first [#[datatype! file!]]

By reading manual probably

file! in the switch body is not datatype! but word! Understanding 
this will help to better understand how REBOL works.

Pekr, an old Reboler like you...

:)