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BrianH 13-Oct-2009 [19000] | No, it doesn't exist, and would be one line of code. However, so would calling this function, so it doesn't save anything. Probably best to remove the reference/page. |
Henrik 13-Oct-2009 [19001x3] | there are a few of those on the list of function pages to remove |
but, I'm about 40% through the list, and I'll compile a list of changes and things that need to be looked at. | |
is there an example of the use of IN-DIR ? | |
BrianH 13-Oct-2009 [19004x3] | Cool. Tell Carl though - he's the one who knows how to remove pages in that wiki. |
IN-DIR is used for file manipuulation code, when you need to change the directory for onne bit of code and then change back. | |
The old DevBase used to use it to handle its work directory. Don't know about the new one. | |
Henrik 13-Oct-2009 [19007] | ok, thanks |
ChristianE 13-Oct-2009 [19008] | Henrik, there's a currently undocumented /ONLY refinement for KEEPing block values with COLLECT, e.g.: >> collect [keep 1 keep [2 3]] == [1 2 3] >> collect [keep 1 keep/only [2 3]] == [1 [2 3]] |
Steeve 13-Oct-2009 [19009] | Some unlisted functions still... intern, collect-words. Probably some other |
Pekr 14-Oct-2009 [19010] | 2.100.89 released - http://www.rebol.net/wiki/R3_Releases#View.exe_2.100.89_13-Oct-2009 |
Henrik 14-Oct-2009 [19011x2] | ChristianE, thanks for that one. |
Added to the docs. If you find more errors or undocumented parts, keep them coming. | |
Maxim 14-Oct-2009 [19013] | thanks for your time and effort Henrik... this type of volunteer work often (usually) goes un-noticed and it really is a lot of work. |
Henrik 14-Oct-2009 [19014x2] | Well, I do it to learn the parts of R3 that I don't know yet. :-) Going through all functions brute force without using that chance to write docs would be silly. |
There is probably still going to be a lot of bugs and missing refinements. I noticed that some functions aren't written properly in the summary, and of course there are obsolete and missing pages. | |
Maxim 14-Oct-2009 [19016] | still writing docs is time consuming... I know I don't have time to do the brute force right now... I'm still waiting for the extensions extensions to help out in that area of the docs. |
Henrik 14-Oct-2009 [19017] | It looks to me like some GUI functions like 'handle-events and 'base-handler that belong inside View are also available in the main context and are also listed in the docs. I assume those functions will disappear, once the GUI goes into a module. |
RobertS 14-Oct-2009 [19018] | I posted a note to the R3 blog article on a89 as I cannot get it to return a prompt on Win XP SP3 - I have tried getting r3-a89.exe to consume a script and tried not only under cmd shell but also under cygwin |
Henrik 14-Oct-2009 [19019] | I don't have an issue with it. |
Pekr 14-Oct-2009 [19020x2] | 2.100.90 released .... |
.... actually it will be released in something like hour. We have last hour to decide, if we eventually want to rename parse 'loop to 'while .... | |
Pekr 15-Oct-2009 [19022] | Modules in binary compressed format - http://www.rebol.net/r3blogs/0274.html |
Henrik 15-Oct-2009 [19023] | A90 now also for Linux and OSX |
RobertS 16-Oct-2009 [19024x2] | Both fine on my Untu and XP. Whatever.. BTW, was there ever a chat about assert {} I am spending some time in Groovy and thinking about the errors in a Rebol book: the Manny Groovy book was generated so at least the code examples run ... groovy uses assert a a good deal ... which got me to thinking about REBOL comment {} which seems to suggest that we could have an assert {} which is evaluated only when a REBOL option is set. and have it default to OFF |
Oops - so funny - I went to look at rebol.org for any use of an assert but there it is assert in the R3 docs missed it ... but can it be flipped not to run? Or would you just set assrt: :assert and wrap it? | |
Maxim 16-Oct-2009 [19026] | assert is used like any/all to quickly provide integrity tests. |
RobertS 16-Oct-2009 [19027] | we had assert back in Smalltalk SUnit ... ;-) |
Pekr 17-Oct-2009 [19028] | Let's comment on the compression format - http://www.rebol.net/r3blogs/0275.html |
Steeve 17-Oct-2009 [19029] | To not to be able anymore to reduce this [( )] at this [ ], is really annoying. I have to clean my reduced blocks from unset! values returned by called functions. Really, I don't understand such modified behavior in R3, what's the gain, what the purpose ? |
Maxim 17-Oct-2009 [19030x2] | WHAT? this is totally unusable. ALL of my code depends on the "reduce this [( )] at this [ ]" philosophy at some point. |
is the same with compose? | |
Steeve 17-Oct-2009 [19032x3] | No, it's ok with compose, but i can't change the reduced blocks to composed blocks, it would destroy the sake of my project |
I just want Carl or someone explain to us what is the gain of such change. It's just causing wrackings currently | |
I see absolutly no interest. | |
Maxim 17-Oct-2009 [19035x3] | this is really annoying and like you, I see absolutely no real-world usage ... it sounds more like an oversight on carl's behalf. |
like... oops ... forgot to remove unset values in reduce native. in the meantime, you can just make reduce a mezz , call the native inside of it and remove unset values... at least its going to be done automatically... although it will slow down your code a bit. | |
you should post on curecode for this. | |
Steeve 17-Oct-2009 [19038] | it's what i doing currently, a remove-each of the unset! values |
Maxim 17-Oct-2009 [19039] | did you post this to curecode? carl will definitely give aheads up on the issue quickly. |
Steeve 17-Oct-2009 [19040x2] | (Arghh !!! Stupid busy Altme, it lost my note again) |
Not a bug | |
Maxim 17-Oct-2009 [19042] | why is this not a bug? |
Steeve 17-Oct-2009 [19043x2] | it's an willing change of the design from Carl, long time ago. It's not recent. |
but he never explained such change, IIRC | |
Maxim 17-Oct-2009 [19045] | posting it to curecode is a good way for him to see that a change isn't beneficial in real world use. he will comment it there, and it will be usefull as a reference for further users... I did a search for reduce on curecode, found a few things... but since curecode serves as a reference, this would be a good place to put your grievance. |
Steeve 17-Oct-2009 [19046] | IIRC, it's to optimize the dialect's parsers using the function DELECT |
Maxim 17-Oct-2009 [19047x2] | all changes are well explained in curecode tickets when people complain about them. |
some tickets have VERY in-depth explanations of R3 quirks wrt R2. this would be a good addition... cause it surely will come up again. | |
Steeve 17-Oct-2009 [19049] | but i would rather prefer, a special reduce function for his dialects, instead of enforcing us with such drawback |
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