World: r3wp

Have we a built-in function to decode xml data, currently ? Perhaps, 
i missed something...

R2 has 'parse-xml and its helper function 'xml-language.

You can copy their sources to R3 .... but they are currently seriously 
buggy there.


Gavin's XML parser was better in R2....It has no equivalent in R3 
yet:
    http://www.rebol.org/view-script.r?script=xml-parse.r


I guess we are waiting for parse to settle down before getting decent 
XML tools.

Well, i only wanted construct a block of tags and strings.
So i came with that, it's enough for me currently.

src: read %frog.svg
out: []
parse src [
	any [
		copy str to [#"<" | end]
		opt [if (not empty? str) (append out to-string str)]

  not end src: (set [data src] transcode/next src append out data) 
  :src
	]
]

demo error with sub-panel !!!!

error => append2 has no value

known bug

http://www.rebol.net/wiki/Devices

New document on devices.

I have read that Carl asked your opinion about embedding SQLLite 
in REBOL. What about it ?

http://www.rebol.com/r3/docs/functions/bind-q.html


Carl posted a note in the BIND? function, that there are two types 
of bindings. I hadn't noticed that before, so it may be old news, 
but now we know.

Good to see the old news documented somewhere outside of CureCode 
and the blog :)

BrianH: what is Console2?

http://sf.net/projects/console/

BrianH: did you know about the 'evoke function? :-)

Only of its existence, not how to use it.

evoke 'someword gives instructions

it is now clearer, because of my stack-size request ...

I had to put new ticket there though, as we need stack keyword for 
secure ...

secure none
evoke [stack-size 1000000]

I don't like the entire removal of security in order to be able to 
raise the stack. We need secure [stack allow] or even better secure 
[stack 1000000], and in such a case evoke is not needed ...

Apart from that, I don't regards #1252 to be solved. Carl just allowed 
the stack to be settable, but he left default value to be at 1/4 
of the R2 value. 4009 recursion stack limit? Come-on ...

Secure evoke.

Secure evoke? Yes, if 'evoke will be used for some other magic things 
than setting the stack :-) I wonder what is its another usage :-)

A suggestion, not something that yet exists.

I know - you might add it as a comment to #1259

it is maybe better than secure stack ...

as for Console2 - but that is gfx console, no? Will it work on terminal 
set-up?

R3 is targeted at low-memory applications as well.

Think about it: Even on a high-memory system, you might have dozens 
of concurrently rnning R3 instances, particularly once we start compiling 
ouur own hosts. Maybe hundreds. Memory adds up - better to start 
small.

Does raising the stack to 1mil for e.g., consumes much more memory?

Yes, much more.

Hmm, more on evoke:

>> evoke '?
Flags: crash-dump delect watch-recycle watch-obj-copy crash

... so its help is not adapted to reflect stack-size parameter. Will 
CC it ...

BrianH: I DDed Console2 - how can I make R3 to open in the Console2? 
:-)

You can't, because it unnecessarily allocates its own console, as 
I noted before. To be fixed.

hmm, but even if it would not - how do you tell to general app, that 
Windows has now new console available to be used?

I want to be able to run R3 from the *Windows* command line, not 
its own copy of the Windows command line.

You call the app from that console.

aha, so it just "switches" to >> prompt, and here we go - R3?

Running from the windows command line: that would also remove the 
side effect that a console would be opened, when starting a R3 GUI 
app from the desktop.

will it be difficult to fix? If not, we could get it for the beta, 
no?

Yup, just like Mac or Linux.

We should CC it, as a 'wish :-)

This would be trivial to fix. I even planned to fix it myself once 
the host code was released.

One thing I don't like under OSX/Linux is that you can't create a 
new console. A new instance is piped to the same console "melding" 
the two together, making them both nearly useless.

I like that effect - it's what makes CGI work on Linux.

it's not useful for end users, but of course I see your point.

And the lack of that effect is what makes CGI not work on Windows 
(in addition to Unicode issues).

I want to be able to pop up a new console if I need to, but it should 
be a GUI console and I should be able to pop up more than one in 
the same R3 process, in different tasks. Text mode console usage 
should use the text mode console.

I am curious about HOW do we actually fix the unicode issues. This 
might be more deep problem, that might seem. Because If I am not 
able to print in UTF-8, I need to first print the header, using some 
conversion, and then the content = the code is not easily cross-platform 
...

I'm OK with that, as long as you can debug a launched script in OSX.