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Pekr 28-Sep-2009 [18344] | so why just not to chat upon some areas and fill in already good project-plan? |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18345x2] | Pekr, yes good. |
So, when and where? | |
Pekr 28-Sep-2009 [18347x2] | Carl - R3 Chat is not nowhere, no? It was created to be a developer's tool too. But - we can make projects-plan.html a wiki page, so we can edit it and fill it with detail? |
http://www.rebol.com/r3/project-plans.html | |
BrianH 28-Sep-2009 [18349] | Using the docs wiki, not DocBase. |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18350] | (I am quite sure that BrianH has some kind of microwave beam and reads my thoughts.) |
Pekr 28-Sep-2009 [18351] | :-) |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18352] | Pekr: what do you mean "R3 Chat is not nowhere, no?" |
BrianH 28-Sep-2009 [18353] | I'm running you in simulation :) |
Pekr 28-Sep-2009 [18354] | BrianH: now what is some secret RT's plan? Come on - you can read Carl's mind, no? :-) |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18355] | Lol. :) |
BrianH 28-Sep-2009 [18356] | It's a secret :) |
Steeve 28-Sep-2009 [18357] | Again about parse, there was that proposal to execute words bunded with functions and to parse their result instead of doing nothing currently. It would allow to construct dynamic rules. Any opinion ? |
Pekr 28-Sep-2009 [18358] | Carl - because you said you need more than particular thread posted. So I replied, that R3 Chat was supposed to be a streamlined and isolated Dev comm channel for us, and as such is not "nowhere", but now I can see I mixed two your replies, so forget it ... |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18359] | Steeve, post that to the parse group, and I will answer it. |
Pekr 28-Sep-2009 [18360] | OK, to get back focused - so what is NEXT? :-) Do we rework the priority plan? Do we need to? Projects-plan needs imo few edits, no? |
Steeve 28-Sep-2009 [18361] | i already posted it, and you said it was interesting but the other people didn't react... |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18362x3] | Steeve: Well, then perhaps it's time for a blog to make afinal decision. |
(I will attempt to do so today -- a busy day.) | |
Pekr, yes, let's revise the priority plan. | |
BrianH 28-Sep-2009 [18365] | That was one of the original parse proposals, Steeve, from 5 years ago. If those functions could take arguments and have local vars, almost all of the parse operations could be replaced with such functions. There was even a suggested rule! function type. |
Steeve 28-Sep-2009 [18366] | i don't think it needs a special function type. |
BrianH 28-Sep-2009 [18367] | It was thought to require redoing PARSE from scratch though, so USE was suggested instead. |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18368] | Pekr, I am not sure how the "community" can edit the project plan... It is better to simply mention what edits are needed, and we can updated it quite rapidly (it's built by a REBOL script.) |
Steeve 28-Sep-2009 [18369x2] | it's a function ? parse execute it and use her result as a rule |
i think it's simple enough like that, but powerfull | |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18371] | Pekr? |
Pekr 28-Sep-2009 [18372x2] | yes ... |
back.... | |
BrianH 28-Sep-2009 [18374] | If you use the docs wiki, a trusted subset of the community (read: no spammers) can edit it. |
Pekr 28-Sep-2009 [18375] | so what should we do? Suggest some stuff we think should be in-there for beta? But where to suggest it? Most interested ppl are here, not just right now. So we can collect some stuff, and post it to you "somewhere" - maybe R3 chat Priorities group? |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18376] | Yes, ok. So, do we want to add any other columns to it? |
Pekr 28-Sep-2009 [18377] | Columns? Maybe rows? :-) |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18378x2] | Yes, use #358 for notes on it. |
Rows are easy. Columns are not. | |
Pekr 28-Sep-2009 [18380] | What other columns we might need? R3 version? E.g. 3.0, 3.1, etc.? Is that needed now? |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18381x2] | I was thinking just a "Note" column. We can use it for whatever. |
Ok, must go. Will get that project list on the Docs wiki today. Let's get it filled in, but also think about how to get more community involvement in R3 as it moves forward rapidly now, but must still accelerate to reach the release timeline ("Autumn 2009"). | |
BrianH 28-Sep-2009 [18383] | Don't forget to check CureCode |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18384] | Will do. |
Pekr 28-Sep-2009 [18385x3] | Don't do we set our time ourselves? |
Why Autumn? :-) Anything more strategic we might not know about? :-) Or you yourself want to finally move it to final stage? | |
ok, anyway - will wait for the editable doc .... | |
Henrik 28-Sep-2009 [18388x2] | WRT editing the function reference, I suggest we simply go through them, one at a time alphabetically, which is what I'm doing now. I already found a few bits that needed change. |
http://www.rebol.com/r3/docs/functions.html Quick link. | |
Graham 28-Sep-2009 [18390x2] | I suspect community involvement in R3 will increase once there's a modern communication channel. Asking people to participate in some shell based chat is really retro. |
The other issue is that for many things .. R2 is good enough .. a bit like XP users not wanting to upgrade to Windows 7 :) | |
BrianH 28-Sep-2009 [18392] | ... based on their experience of Vista, and without any consideration of the merits of 7. Very similar. |
Pekr 29-Sep-2009 [18393] | AND renamed to STAY, ? renamed to THEN, or so it seems for A84 .... |
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