World: r3wp

hmm, pages for DevCon are down, so actually it is difficult to say, 
wehn it will happen :-)

So now we know the target date for R3 release :-) DevCon 2007 holds 
first conference session - By Carl Sassenrath - "Introducing REBOL 
3.0"

Pekr: "introducing R3" may mean just technology overview ;)

who here is going to devcon2007 ?

probably me. It depends if I opt for a new job or no, and if I am 
succesfull :-)

i'll be there 99%

I'lll be there 1%

As I recall, Paris is difficult to negotiate if you don't parlez 
francais

Is the date (May 10-11) fixed?

Paris is difficult to negociate unless you speak parisian... and 
even then, many french will tell you paris is almost like a separate 
country  ;-)

graham, just bring a sleeping bag and a really big lunchbox.

I will be there

Graham , yea I visited france last spring and was surprised how few 
people spoke english

The food was really amazing though

It's the weekend before finals week....

i'm actually planning to bring a friend that speaks french ;)

I'll hopefully be there. Need to take my wife as she knows french 
a bit so I'm not completely lost ;)

I plan to look disgusted every time somoene does not speak English...this 
seems like a good attack plan while in France..... : )

we're probably going together with Cyphre so I should be there as 
well.  Unfortunately, languages I speak (ENU, DEU, RUS...) are probably 
not very popular in France :) It's shame when people thinks their 
native language is enough  and refuse to learn something else(actually, 
this is problem not only in France ;)

Reichart, you'll look disgusted a lot this way.

I should be there

I don't mind translating french to/from for you guys ... just tag 
me along , and pay the food  ;-)

Note that I have a lot of fun trying to get French (especially in 
paris) to understand quebec's dialect of french which can be as different 
as irish and american ...  :-)

they sometimes look at you with a numb expression... you can almost 
see the gears working hard behind their eyes  ;-)

I don't speak French...and do not face much problems moving around 
Paris speaking English.


though... for Reichart's case, you will need to speak MUCH slower.

....but you don't look typically Anglo-Saxon, do you?

its funny because talk about visiting/working at any european country 
with people and they usually all have good things to say...

talk about visiting/working in paris or some other big city in france 
and many people will have a funny story about being rebuffed ...

fortunately, we all know that Rebolers from france are cool dudes 
 :-)

I can speak only a few words of French but didn't have encounter 
any  problems, the few times I visited Paris.

Perhaps learning just a few words makes a difference ?

I really do think it depends on who you meet and why you go!

for my part, the first time I landed in Charles de Gaule airport, 
I saw a lost traveler (french) asking for bus schedules, get screamed 
at by the stewardess at the help desk... cause he asked twice!  :-)


I got cut off in a line (as I was going to be served) waiting for 
a train ticket in paris... twice in a row... I was soooo surprised 
I didn't know how to react!  I was then told a lot of people expected 
you to start arguing or else they are right ! 

its just funny really.  :-)


but my guess is that the more alien you are, the better people react 
.

they sometimes look at you with a numb expression... you can almost 
see the gears working hard behind their eyes  ;-)
   LOL!

I'm looking forward to heading to the South of France though.

actually, i don't think it will be hard. i don't think english is 
less known in france than it is in italy, and we've been fine here 
:)

it may be less known "on principle"

Reichart for ambassador to France ! :)

When I have landed to Dallas, people understand my english but me, 
I didn't understand anything. But don't worry, I had no problem there. 
You will experience the same in Paris if you speak in english, you 
will not understand the french response, but that's not a problem, 
people are very nice and will help you like people in Dallas did.

APPLY function mentioned in the R3 blog.

where is that useful?

It's funny to see Native English people afraid of going in a country 
where English is not as known as in  ie. North european country :)

Be sure that native French people are afraid too to go in ie. US. 
Very very few people speak a second language there !!

But, he ! Paris is a touristic town !!

So don't be afraid, you will find a way to be understood by others.
And "arms" are universal language ;-)

:-) Not only do very few of us speak a second language, but many 
of us have trouble with English. I always smile when I chat with 
people from around the world who apologize for their poor English 
when, in reality, it's often more correct than what American's write. 
It doesn't have the natural flow of a native speaker, but more advanced 
words are used, and used correctly. 


Knowing, now, how hard it was just to learn a few phrases in other 
languages for my dialect session, I have even more respect for all 
of you who give *entire* presentations in a non-native language.

Of course, I write that, and then see I've misused an apostrophe 
in there (American's). :-\

hehe

:-D

Gregg, you did a marvelous job with your multi-language intro at 
last DevCon. You tricked me for a second to think, you were fluent 
in all those languages. :-) I remember, I started to speak danish 
to you, and you raised your finger like saying: "I'm coming to that." 
hehe

I'll have to add Danish if I ever do it again. :-) I couldn't have 
done it without a lot of help from the native speakers, particularly 
Richard. I wasn't even *close* on my Czech, working from translated 
text. At least he got a good laugh out of it. :-) Fortunately, nobody 
was there who could criticize my Indonesian.

And 
arms" are universal language ;-)"

So is MONEY : )

Not without arms. You need to point out -  no,  at - what you want!