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[!REBOL3-OLD1]

Tomc
5-Oct-2006
[1568]
yes   get/set  for a   0 based series seems reasonable at the moment
Maxim
5-Oct-2006
[1569]
suck and blow .... LOL  !
Volker
5-Oct-2006
[1570x2]
zick, zoke :)
if you really use 0based, you know what you do, an can remember that. 
and it sounds dynamic :)
Henrik
5-Oct-2006
[1572]
will we need a 'zeroth too?
Volker
5-Oct-2006
[1573]
can it be a long name?
  pick-before series 27
is what it does.
Maxim
5-Oct-2006
[1574]
could we define hair as being before head   ?  ;-)
Gregg
5-Oct-2006
[1575]
I would use z-pick/z-poke rather than pickz/pokez. It mentally expands 
to zero-pick rather than pick-zero, and reads as zee-pick rather 
than picks.
Maxim
5-Oct-2006
[1576]
or rather pigs
Rebolek
5-Oct-2006
[1577]
pick0 poke0 ?
Tomc
5-Oct-2006
[1578]
pre-pick pre-poke
Oldes
6-Oct-2006
[1579x2]
I like z-pick and z-poke
but I'm fine with pickz and pokez as well - no problem to me
Izkata
7-Oct-2006
[1581]
cpick and cpoke ?   (Inspired by C++'s  cin and cout)
Ladislav
7-Oct-2006
[1582]
sounds interesting
Tomc
7-Oct-2006
[1583]
pixies & pokesy
Gregg
7-Oct-2006
[1584]
Still suffering from fever Tom? ;-)
Tomc
7-Oct-2006
[1585x2]
unfortunatly
otherwise I would be too busy to play here
Alan
3-Nov-2006
[1587]
.
Jerry
5-Nov-2006
[1588]
Any progress in REBOL 3.0? Any scoop to share with us? Anyone?
Henrik
5-Nov-2006
[1589]
jerry, Carl just wrote something interesting on the blog :-)
Pekr
5-Nov-2006
[1590]
interesting :-) If they started to work on View kernel part, does 
it mean Core alpha is ready in some concrete form? (because View 
surely will use low level advantage of newly introduced inheritance 
(class system) ...
Graham
5-Nov-2006
[1591]
We will have to be more careful of what we write on the rebolweek 
blog !
Jerry
5-Nov-2006
[1592]
Henrik, Thanks. That article certainly set my mind at ease.
Henrik
6-Nov-2006
[1593]
graham, I suggest you start writing more about "Oh, rebol3 development 
seems to have stopped." Maybe that will set off more rebol3 articles. 
:-)
Pekr
6-Nov-2006
[1594]
:-))
Maxim
6-Nov-2006
[1595]
hehe... well in the last  blog, carl says he is  actually working 
on the face side of things  :-)
Graham
6-Nov-2006
[1596]
it wasn't me .. it was Volker!
Pekr
14-Nov-2006
[1597]
one other month since last R3 blog update. Any news here?
Henrik
14-Nov-2006
[1598]
I would like to know more about these optimized graphics objects 
or whatthey'recalled.
Pekr
14-Nov-2006
[1599x6]
interesting part is, that imo if Carl and Cyphre work on new View, 
then hopefully Core R3 is ready to some extent?
otherwise I would not understand it. Because I would prefer Core 
alpha release, allow ppl to study new plug-in architecture, trying 
to wrap few libraries etc.
but who knows - Carl promissed to post "bigger picture" diagram of 
R3, but maybe he forgot ....
I wonder, if tasking model, timers, event system, are already decided 
...
Uhm, as I posted in Linux group, many systems are targetting its 
future towards vectore usage. Co-author of KDE 4 blogged about how 
fast Qt 4 based vector pipeline is, and it seems other engines can't 
stand the competition. Of course he generated some noise, as Cairo 
fanboys did not like it :-) http://zrusin.blogspot.com/So I looked 
at http://www.antigrain.com, to see what is new with AGG. It seems 
to me, that it is not good for RT - they are changing licence for 
any new version to GPL
Also if I understand correctly, Maxim has now full time job, non 
AGG related. I wonder what the future of AGG is for us, and if we 
should not look into something else ....
Gabriele
14-Nov-2006
[1605x2]
petr, Carl did not forget. :)
Core is not ready, but this doesn't mean we can't start on View.
Cyphre
14-Nov-2006
[1607]
Pekr: The 'old' licence for AGG 2.3 and 2.4 remains. GPL is for 2.5 
which is at the moment at the same leve as 2.4(regarding functionality). 
So far noone from the AGG comunity(or at least at the ML) don't know 
why Maxim decided to change the licence.(everyone is waiting for 
his reply)

Maxim also wrote "Current AGG users who are willing to continue using 
AGG under the old terms and conditions are encouraged to contact 
me and I will consider their requests." so nothing is lost if we 
would like to use 2.5.

Anyway, even the AGG2.3 framework is very stable and have 99% of 
the features same like 2.4 and up. The whole code quality is very 
good so it is possible to enhance it...so this shouldn't be a big 
problem for Rebol.

Another thing is that in the 'worst case' current AGG users/developers 
who don't want or cannot use the GPL version are planning to continue 
with improving the 2.4 codebase separately.
Henrik
14-Nov-2006
[1608]
cyphre, very simple question: does it support smooth downscaling 
of bitmaps? Is is something that can be turned on?
Cyphre
14-Nov-2006
[1609]
Sure, ieven AGG2.3 (which Rebol is using) supports high quality downscaling 
of images(among other types of image filters). As I know lot of Rebolers 
would like to generate quality thumbnails ;) I'll try to talk with 
Carl about including this in future versions of Rebol.
Henrik
14-Nov-2006
[1610]
That would shave off a lot of development time for an app, I'm developing. 
Just this one feature. Thanks.
Maxim
14-Nov-2006
[1611]
I'd just like to be able to select transform filters on the fly.
Pekr
15-Nov-2006
[1612]
Gabriele - so if Carl did not forget, then the whole picture of architecture 
is not clear yet, or is it? :-)
Cyphre
15-Nov-2006
[1613]
Pekr: AFAIK Carl is also working on some diagrams so you will see 
the design soon.
Pekr
15-Nov-2006
[1614]
ok, good to know, thanks. I think that many ppl here are waiting 
for R3 already. I believe some would prefer incomplete alpha (complete 
to some degree), to already start testing for bugs, testing interfaces, 
ports, etc.
Cyphre
15-Nov-2006
[1615x2]
Maxim: yes, this is already in current DRAW but only two filters 
are supported. (NN and bilinear)
pekr: I'm sure Carl release the testing version ASAP (ie. when he 
decide it make sense to test it externally)
Pekr
15-Nov-2006
[1617]
your answer implies it is under testing "internally", right? :-)