World: r3wp

Just wondering what you can do with a clone that has no ports ... 
can it read and write files?  Do cgi ?

Graham - you are requesting too advanced functionality? :-)

Why? You're in luck: Boron just got ports

Nick, there's not much point in digging into the ORCA source. It's 
superceded by Boron

Of course, ORCA has been able to read and write files for years, 
and that's what I use in Syllable. And when it can do that, or just 
print to standard output, you can also do CGI with it

How is Boron different than ORCA?  Are you working on it?

Can I use it for CGI now?

There's no 'system, let alone system/options/cgi.  Is there any method 
for retrieving GET or POST data?  I'd work agressively at implementing 
some useful web site applications with Boron if there was even rudimentary 
CGI support.

Boron is not my project

Oh - I thought it was.

I guess it's Karl?  Is there a way to contact him?

ORCA was quite REBOL compatible. There was an intermediate project 
Thune that was much more Forth like and not compatible. Boron has 
prefix syntax again but is less compatible than ORCA

Yes, it's Karl, and he has a mail address and mailing list at SourceForge

Thanks :)

There has been a continuous line of development over about half a 
decade from ORCA via Thune (and Rune) to Boron. Boron is the newest 
and the only current project

Not much is needed for CGI, so I'd guess it's possible. ORCA had 
a getenv function to get the environment variables and so does Boron, 
I guess

I don't know about getting standard input

CGI is not the kind of stuff Karl does, so it may be missing. They're 
just small things to add, though

As it stands, Boron seems reasonably capable of processing strings 
and lists - I could certainly have a go at writing some useful stuff 
if CGI were possible.  I'll send Karl an email...

Right  now I'm very excited to be playing with a working open source 
REBOL implementation in Windows :) I wonder what dependencies it 
has, and if it can be compiled to run on Windows Phone or any other 
potentially useful operating systems.  Even just for simple file 
managment and text processing, it would be really cool to see this 
running somewhere where real REBOL isn't currently available.  And 
since it's open source, there's potential to expand it's capabilities.

Porting it to other platforms shouldn't be hard. I just compiled 
it on Syllable and that was it

ORCA only optionally depended on LibBZip2. I don't think Boron even 
needs that yet

Oh, it does need CMake to compile. That's the most tricky part

Here's the recipe from my build system:

http://syllable.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/syllable/syllable/system/apps/utils/Builder/packages/Boron--current/Boron--current.recipe?view=markup

Thanks!

Don't mind the patch directive; that's left over from ORCA

I want to try to compile ORCA for Windows too - I tried briefly once 
in the past, but ran into problems and didn't have time to play with 
it.

Look like it needs files from  http://wsrebol.sourceforge.net/- 
 currently a 404 error.

That would be M2. You can also get that included in my source package 
in the Syllable downloads

Cool, thanks :)  I'm NOT looking forward to re-installing Visual 
C++.  I wonder if Dev-C++ or Digital Mars would work...

DevC++ is using GCC, isn't it? That should work

Yep (and there's a devpak for the BZip2 library :)

I had a quick look at Boron and at second look I got the impression 
that it can be a real alternative, if  R3 does not move faster.

Nick, any luck?

Boron just got the choice between compiling COMPRESS with ZLib or 
BZip2

unfortunately only for the m2-based build, it seems. cmake-based 
build is currently broken

(easy enough fix: http://gitorious.org/~earl/boron/earl-boron/commit/73e33bd.diff)

Prevx has decided Boron.exe is medium risk malware :(

too easy...

I've been communicating with Karl about getting Boron CGI working, 
so I'm sticking with Boron for now :)

I assume you also nead POST handling :) ?

need*

Yes, but I'm taking baby steps right now...

Adding the ability to read standard input should be sufficient for 
POST

Has anyone a project file for Codeblocks and Boron under Windows 
or some hints how to do it?

By the way, not sure when it was implemented, but Boron's manual 
has an example for reading standard input

sqlab: you can have cmake generate a codeblocks project file for 
you

i think all you should need to do for that on windows is fire up 
cmake gui and select the boron directory

Kaj, thanks for noting that standard input example - it is new.  
In June, Boron's user manual version was 0.1.2 and the windows release 
was 0.1.4.  It's really encouraging to see work accomplished :)  
I donated a small amount back in June to Karl using the paypal link 
- if he's motivated by money to do more work, I'd support that without 
reservation.  I don't have much time right now to explore much, but 
I'd love to see a continuing active open source alternative.