World: r3wp

But back to the question: Is Win32, MacOSX and Debian Linux enough 
for now ? Are all current orca developers covered by those supported 
platforms ?

I'm not sure that debian linux is enough, even if it's a big part 
of them

But maybe it will be a couple of years before a developer comes along 
who is not covered by these platforms.

So it might be enough for now. I mean, it seems there's only about 
8 people taking an interest at the moment.

On the other hand, there are lots of open source java chat apps.

there is also plain IRC

Mmm. that's true. Maybe we should just use IRC ?

I take it that not all the developers are present here?

No, at least one isn't.

so it would be hard to lure him/her in here? :-)

Very hard.

interesting

We have a plain IRC channel ready in freenode. Join the Orca channel.

That is the simplest. I just need to get meme9 to provide logs for 
it. So people can get up to speed.

I rather spend time coding Orca than coding tools. IRC is fine for 
chatting.

are you Aquanaut?

Yes.

there is only one person there

I'll check out the IRC. We can't expand with a four person limit. 
That's crazy.

I think IRC is the way to go.

Yeah campfire cost money per users. I prefer no to have the expense.

I would like to steer orca back towards full compatibility (or close) 
to rebol (core 2.6.x  at least).  Currently orca has diverged somewhat. 
(It does have a compatibility flag, but I don't know how far ranging 
it is.)  Does anyone here have any objections to this course of action 
?

nope. Personally I'd prefer a straight Rebol clone probably with 
added bits.

I will fix some of the bugs though.

The closer we make it, the less documentation we have to write ! 
:)

For example,  the Ops in Orca have are more comprehensive and correct 
that the ones in R2.

Indeed.

do we clone the stupid parts as well? :-)

now now ;)

Lets swicth the conversation to IRC.

I'm looking for an IRC client now... what are you guys using ?

I use Colloquy in OSX

I'm going to try Bersirc.

What's the freenode server address I need ?

Ok I'm in.

Anton -if you are on Windows, then mirc is probably the best one 
...

Too late, I'm using Bersirc, which is open source.

ah, ok, I just wanted to suggest what is simply the best for all 
those years ... :-)

I went to wikipedia and it has an IRC comparison chart :)

Jamie, Henrik, if there are bad ops or stupid parts in R2, be sure 
to mention them to those creating R3. Either RT will fix the problems 
or explain why they aren't problems. In the long run, it would be 
a good thing if Orca and REBOL were to be more compatible.

Yes, actually, I'm more in favour of staying close to rebol, even 
with its bugs and deficiencies, to maintain as much compatibility 
as possible.

Agreed.

I just don't see the use of being compatible. I actually see it like 
a wast of time. 100% compatibility means importing the gotchas, the 
bugs, and the problems in certain designs. Like the port system.

Yet my goal is to abandon Rebol, not have a backup tool. If I build 
a tool I want to use it for my own benefit. Not become tied to following 
an external spec.

(at least we know those bugs.)

My approach about cloning "Copy what you like"  http://www.paulgraham.com/copy.html

Again. I taking this as a hobby. I will still pitch in if others 
want to make Orca into a real clone. Any how I still learn something 
which is my goal.

Perhaps switches?

Maybe. But thats a lot of work. When one could just doing something 
new and cool.

It depends of what is the objective. If the objective is to support 
an older code base then compatibility is a must.