World: r3wp
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Benjamin 14-Oct-2005 [48x2] | Im atending to CaFeLUG it's an open source 3 days long conference with various speakers and discutions, yesterday we have ms "maddog" hall, and today i get the chance to listen Roberto Di Cosmo, many french and italian people may know im, its has been a truly eye opening experience, i guess Argentina like many other countrys who use Privative Soft like MS windows (only because we can make the copy) its going to make a switch, the ability to copy windows will no longer exist, and the only real option is Open source because of the $$$ right now i think this will happen in no more than 5 years from now, i do not agree with the general idea o MS but i found COM to be a quite intresting thing its to sad to see how it's bloated by VB or C# but any whay its a nice thing they have. So in conclution its a good idea to have COM yes and no... yes because it will open a door for rebol and many programers (maybe) and no because the thecnology could become useless in 5 years (at least to me and people around me) I think it will take a few changes to make rebol COM compatible so it isn't a great deal programing it for a couple of years it may be a good thing to have. But today there are some great things to do imagine REBOL's capabilityes integrated in the desktop a true desktop not the rebol one, REBOL stands in the middle between documents messaging information exchange etc... etc... just because it can integrate COM .... |
BTW i found the rebol desktop verry userful in some tasks its geat i IOS is even better but the leack ability of interaction with aplications and elements out there make it a bit "closed" to my taste, dont get me wrong here, i just mean it for those people we use to call "useres" the weenies :-) we dont need that :-) | |
Benjamin 20-Oct-2005 [50] | i've found a nasty bug on the rebol code, it avoided objects to be passed now looks much nicer and works... im working on some pritty examples WORD EXEL and more just the one's you can see on MSDN for VBS but workin in REBOL !!! wow comming soon ! you cant imagine all things you can do with this baby apart from crashing the system :-) |
Graham 20-Oct-2005 [51] | Ahh ... can't wait to try this all out :) |
Benjamin 20-Oct-2005 [52] | did the printing code worked graham ? |
Graham 20-Oct-2005 [53] | I won't have a chance to try it out till tomorrow when I get a printer attached. |
Benjamin 20-Oct-2005 [54x3] | examples are ready let me upload them |
All in one zip: (MS word only untill now incude some bug fixes) • Add a Formatted Table to a Word Document. • Add a Picture to a Microsoft Word Document. • Add Formatted Text to a Word Document. • Append Text to a Word Document. • Apply a Style to a Table in a Word Document. • Create a New Word Document. • Create and Save a Word Document. • Open and Print a Word Document. • Save a Microsoft Word Document as an HTML File. Download from: http://www.geocities.com/benjaminmaggi/data/COMLib_Word_exmp.zip | |
i've download abiword because my office don't have the engish dictionary :) i corrected some errors http://www.geocities.com/benjaminmaggi/doc/comlib.html and the plain text version is here http://www.geocities.com/benjaminmaggi/doc/com4rebol.txt | |
Graham 20-Oct-2005 [57x2] | exaptionThrown -< exceptionThrown |
retriveObject -> retrieveObject that is. if you wish to use the correct spelling. | |
Benjamin 20-Oct-2005 [59] | yes i've to change all that in the examples, it will take some time ... :( and it will generate some erros im shure |
Graham 20-Oct-2005 [60] | better to get it all right now ... |
Benjamin 20-Oct-2005 [61] | yes |
Benjamin 21-Oct-2005 [62x2] | Today's roadmap: make an exel example, almost done, not using safearray :( WMI, i need to write a couple of function in the C source, also i need to make a "foreach" custom function in order to work with collections a bit hard i any one have some ideas.... |
I found some problems when i try to use windows WMI so i added a couple of functions and update the wrapper, exel examples are now working well the source is http://www.geocities.com/benjaminmaggi/data/COMLib_Exel_exmp.zip | |
Benjamin 22-Oct-2005 [64] | Tested some WMI found some leacks but the thing worked well, 2 new functions added enumerate (start a collection) and enumNextObject to retrieve net object in a collection (Many COM object uses collection so it whas a top ten upgrade) im uploading the new sources soon i need to upgrade the doc too ! |
Graham 22-Oct-2005 [65x2] | That's very impressive Benjamin. |
You should announce this project on the mailing list as well .. I'm sure that there will be a lot of interest. This channel isn't web-public. | |
Benjamin 22-Oct-2005 [67] | on rebol.org ? |
Graham 22-Oct-2005 [68] | no, the mailing list. |
Davide 22-Oct-2005 [69] | this is a G R E A T lib !!!! ^________^ |
Benjamin 23-Oct-2005 [70] | thanks, im now working on the documentation the other big half missing :) |
Benjamin 29-Oct-2005 [71] | tutorial: using word tables: http://www.geocities.com/benjaminmaggi/doc/word_tables.htm also im thinking about XPCOM i found it to be a more open technology approved by many companies and products, adding support for this technlogy would be great and the sources are out there for free. |
Graham 29-Oct-2005 [72x3] | where's docs on xpcom? |
Ahh.. so this would be cross platform? | |
So, xpcom can be used to control mozilla. | |
Benjamin 30-Oct-2005 [75] | yes in a sense, pekr i think pointed out this article http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/webservices/library/co-xpcom.html a good read ! |
Robert 30-Oct-2005 [76x2] | BTW: I'm currently the excel dialect Gregg and I made to COMLib. Works good so far. |
currently = currently porting | |
Benjamin 30-Oct-2005 [78] | those are good news, btw im going to make a program for those who dont have rebol/pro, using a TCP port, just like i've see in other projects, if any one can point me to some sources it would be great. |
Volker 30-Oct-2005 [79x2] | You could do the tcp it in /pro? encap what you have know, together with handling of tcp? Then free rebols can contact. |
Job for rugby or beer. | |
Benjamin 30-Oct-2005 [81] | most rebol users have the plain rebol/view it would be nice to offer this lib to them too the best solution i found is to create a program to serve the comlib function via tcp |
Volker 30-Oct-2005 [82] | if any one can point me to some sources it would be great. what sources? i thought you wanted to write the proxy in another language. |
Benjamin 30-Oct-2005 [83] | i have to do it that whay |
Volker 30-Oct-2005 [84] | But thinking more, i guess you planned to offer an encapped rebol-proxy. |
Benjamin 30-Oct-2005 [85] | i dont have the sdk :( |
Volker 30-Oct-2005 [86] | Oh. a real plain /pro? But sure somebody else can encap? Just build a tcp-proxy and they encap it? |
Benjamin 30-Oct-2005 [87] | i saw some examples using this technique R2Win - version 1.5.1 J. Colineau used for topwindows.r |
Volker 30-Oct-2005 [88] | (dont have all that office-stuff for testing. Hmm, are there fre programms which i could use? |
Benjamin 30-Oct-2005 [89] | i think Graham encap it |
Volker 30-Oct-2005 [90] | R2Win Colineau gives some googles, but all links are death. cache too. |
Benjamin 30-Oct-2005 [91x3] | yes links are dead :( |
well im going to start by scrach | |
i whant to finish the doc first | |
DideC 31-Oct-2005 [94] | I can ask Jocko (Joseph Colineau) for its R2Win stuff, if you like ? |
Robert 31-Oct-2005 [95] | IMO if people really have a use for this COM stuff (which is by using dialects on top of it), I think it's OK for them to get a /Pro version. If it's of value than $99 isn't that much. |
Maarten 31-Oct-2005 [96] | I have rhe SDK and Rugby: want me to build it for you? |
Robert 31-Oct-2005 [97] | The available format specifies should be added to the docs. |
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